Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75782 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 5402 invoked from network); 21 Jul 2014 11:10:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jul 2014 11:10:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.49 mail-qg0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.49] ([209.85.192.49:44922] helo=mail-qg0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F6/C0-01457-C35FCC35 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 07:10:53 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id j107so5106339qga.8 for ; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 04:10:50 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=4OQKzw8AiO31CBoX1af/Es2/ZZQGnHY1wVqKn9GaPbM=; b=LJ83c+Urwu/lbs/NE/BcOvLV9PbjhAOXajzsJlOhTjt+6O96E7RQt4sW6Rld7a3qlg rhtp5hUe3prQ0altOFoUNjqnqLNGcY5kcv087bIrCL1F56AmkpDAYWxibvHBDt75BwlJ Ne+hYMMFZZpnEFcnGezomaPZSx6lNsKFYHzBMe5rImyYFO0U6YOlPfcrC0oMv77QHhYa JV4aD98qZP78tqZ0xB4GbCkpsa1kCsXcQwowZlo5wXAgzksahxxlI4zSpI9/saoUD6x9 4YkEwVkw5hCwjUfsdILupZrtqIE09WwcrquZcYIOkzcGLbguIS7lJUBXhfVbPfEZOSvL nshg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.229.212.68 with SMTP id gr4mr39981903qcb.25.1405941049691; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 04:10:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.28.139 with HTTP; Mon, 21 Jul 2014 04:10:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2014 13:10:49 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Zeev Suraski , Yasuo Ohgaki , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RFC: Move phpng to master From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 1:01 PM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Mon, Jul 21, 2014 at 12:31 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > >> >> >> He just asks if we will have a 5.7 release while working on the next maj= or >> in master. >> >> I don't think that we can release the php-next under a years, so I think >> that an 5.7 could be warranted (to keep up with our roadmap), but depend= s >> on wether or not we have enough new (BC-safe) features. >> >> I don=E2=80=99t see a reason of why we can=E2=80=99t have this major ver= sion ready by or >> even sooner than the current yearly rhythm we have. In fact, if we do a= im >> to work in parallel on both 5.7 and .NEXT =E2=80=93 we=E2=80=99re likely= to needlessly >> delay .NEXT=E2=80=A6 >> >> >> >> Zeev >> >> >> > > because there is so much stuff which we want to do in the next major > version, but we can't even start because there is no stable base to targe= t > the other php-next features. > based on the history of php versions, any feature which misses php-next > will have to wait for the next decade, so I don't think that we should ru= sh > it (to meet our yearly release cycle defined in > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/releaseprocess). Exactly. And https://wiki.php.net/ideas/php6 and the related discussions (where @Zend and phpng's team were totally absent, go figure). --=20 Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org