Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75727 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 84927 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2014 21:28:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jul 2014 21:28:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=nikita.ppv@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: nikita.ppv@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.53 mail-oa0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.53] ([209.85.219.53:64989] helo=mail-oa0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 12/06-48607-3943CC35 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 17:28:52 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id j17so6115503oag.26 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:28:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Zt1RfsLKJjV/yY/2BCkYaJJ5dgvNH3tfITOSVN7hCv4=; b=Xz3awxElN1WD6t8MUAUV1uBZRDnb4OsGJI0zxWQvfitBlOt3/aZAR0lx2egL97rw8m FYBRLeB6P2ATIdQitwTjALupBh6Q6kwLsf5QF8lK08GVsMEw4q92ZMYpOKSJYDJZC+bg 0KwHb4ONeiSnKtHVT1Efo7/zKg6kMnRzNKxO9V4jHWGsFLLUBou/Z9IEu+wQfx4ZNzJd ECZZQcRl1pZoLIksDt7Dkc/cLFNtMe7dNj5jBZi2CDHtVIUymNSTfEc+oVmMs2Bs9B9V 0o3SM215BK/ZnLrZM5d1/qN2tjCLJrWs5Y0Ss6myVXmekVwzN+J/tQ9wVz+M+crBtVmN 4bCA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.70.163 with SMTP id n3mr31154602oeu.48.1405891728700; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:28:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.182.132.2 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 14:28:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <84603C6F-F984-4F73-892A-4416391E4769@ajf.me> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 23:28:48 +0200 Message-ID: To: Derick Rethans Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113335fa14fa6704fea6adcc Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: nikita.ppv@gmail.com (Nikita Popov) --001a113335fa14fa6704fea6adcc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Jul 20, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Derick Rethans wrote: > On Sun, 20 Jul 2014, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > > > On 20 Jul 2014, at 00:26, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > > > The poll is now open: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote > > > > > > Voting shall end in a week=E2=80=99s time on 2014-07-27. > > > > I=E2=80=99ve cancelled the vote because I don=E2=80=99t think the case = for 6 is > > sufficiently fleshed out. The RFC is now massively imbalanced in > > favour of 7, which isn=E2=80=99t really fair to the 6 side, and I don= =E2=80=99t think > > we can hold a vote while that=E2=80=99s still the case. > > > > Unfortunately I=E2=80=99m not terribly good at making such a case, so h= elp in > > developing the 6 side would be appreciated. I won=E2=80=99t reopen the = vote > > until the 6 side is sufficiently developed. > > Huh what? This is like you weren't happy with the way how the vote was > going so you cancelled it? What nonsense. > After the vote has been started the RFC was edited by Zeev in order to strengthen the case for PHP 7. There is nothing wrong with that, adding additional arguments to an RFC is perfectly fine by me. However at the same time a number of paragraphs were removed that were arguing for PHP 6, at least in part. The only thing that was left in "The case for PHP 6" was a single paragraph, of which half was really just an explanation of the general situation. Effectively the edits made the RFC text heavily biased. It's okay to edit an RFC to add arguments for your side, but I find it discourteous and disingenuous to remove arguments from the opposing side at the same time. As such I can understand Andrea's decision to close this vote until tempers had time to cool down and both sides had a chance to be fairly represented. Nikita --001a113335fa14fa6704fea6adcc--