Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75714 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 55649 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2014 15:40:37 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jul 2014 15:40:37 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=petercowburn@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=petercowburn@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: petercowburn@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.43 mail-qg0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.43] ([209.85.192.43:46341] helo=mail-qg0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9D/11-48607-4F2EBC35 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 11:40:36 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id a108so4725581qge.30 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 08:40:33 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=4okScnpRIQ24rTBtAA9jt9qZm4I+j8pqnQDsf9UR9TY=; b=ARBd7ktWptd4YnplFL3JRb69T/vuzFh0QyHuFn3u8SVuY0M18uVcRXc82HDqYyt0Rt 2U+QHf3n+6uFPVkjokG/W/F1i7tiTWKKsFxxD/EgNwKb2M8p48xAhBpYZLOMe2ECMgN6 RIJm2zyDvdS8EeeO8T95DCTzACzpTZNEPA7/BMDZCNMF3c3brQd+UiD45kyF4kDzbpjU WCLUjpKczelXx2QegrZGLfe7Nl9UUQrOPLfjUvq0eP72dy3HJ/k80nUcvAXEFGfNLqrx O86W17bz5f+7UcfipmdNHXl944yX1lJiVSnEVW/KTCw/Zjp0hJM0LKbTFGIFYPdLLSxe J7YA== X-Received: by 10.224.69.202 with SMTP id a10mr31965402qaj.100.1405870832871; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 08:40:32 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.45.229 with HTTP; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 08:39:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <84603C6F-F984-4F73-892A-4416391E4769@ajf.me> References: <84603C6F-F984-4F73-892A-4416391E4769@ajf.me> Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 16:39:52 +0100 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2e8f097f1c804fea1cf49 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE][RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn) --001a11c2e8f097f1c804fea1cf49 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 20 July 2014 00:26, Andrea Faulds wrote: > Good evening, > > It is finally time to settle this matter once and for all. What shall be > the name of the next release of PHP: PHP 6 or PHP 7? > It might be just me, but the whole RFC actually seems particularly one-sided. The argument for PHP 6 is very short and reads half-baked. The overwhelming majority of this very short section of the RFC is spent describing how naming the release =E2=80=9CPHP 6=E2=80=9D will be a problem= , with a very wishy-washy conclusion that the author =E2=80=9Cexpects=E2=80=9D and =E2=80= =9Cthinks=E2=80=9D it won=E2=80=99t end up being a problem. The PHP 6 section makes no attempt to provide counter points to things mentioned in the following section, nor really attempts to make *any* strong point at all. As for the PHP 7 section, this is by far the dominant part of the RFC. Both in terms of physical presence, but also points and counter-points. It also contains, IMO unnecessarily, light-hearted and jokey comments not befitting an RFC =E2=80=94 unless you see the RFC as a joke too ;) =E2=80= =94 about 6 being a failed version in other software, and 7 a lucky number. Seriously?.. The RFC as a whole is very light on trying to summarise, or at least provide reference to, the history of "PHP 6=E2=80=9D and discussions around= it. This is disappointing, if the aim was to see a balanced summary of previous discussions. However, this particular gripe is a common issue with our RFCs as a whole. Personally, regardless of the content of the RFC, I feel that the choice is obvious. I=E2=80=99m just a little concerned about the lack of quality from= both =E2=80=9Csides=E2=80=9D in presenting their argument(s), or not. > > The poll is now open: https://wiki.php.net/rfc/php6#vote > > Voting shall end in a week=E2=80=99s time on 2014-07-27. > > Thanks! > -- > Andrea Faulds > http://ajf.me/ > > > > > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > --001a11c2e8f097f1c804fea1cf49--