Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75713 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 52919 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2014 14:56:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jul 2014 14:56:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.216 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.216 imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.216] ([192.64.116.216:43445] helo=imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3E/B0-48607-CA8DBC35 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:56:44 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B118E2400D6; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:56:41 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap10.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap10.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6-gp8hkaeaL8; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:56:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.15] (unknown [90.210.122.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 8E8A32400C6; Sun, 20 Jul 2014 10:56:40 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2014 15:56:37 +0100 Cc: "internals@lists.php.net >,>, PHP Internals" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3878ED80-DD83-4FDD-9B49-0F1B47AF7C00@ajf.me> References: <08503591-EFC8-48E6-984E-FFC292C5EA5F@ajf.me> <53C2178E.7070705@sugarcrm.com> <53CB70BC.4020001@php.net> <233C783C-257F-453A-A694-96D1190907BF@ajf.me> To: Ferenc Kovacs X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Scalar Type Hinting With Casts (re-opening) From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 20 Jul 2014, at 15:54, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > This proposal=92s scalar type hints (except for booleans) can=92t = really be called =93strict=94. Perhaps =93firm typing=94? (It=92s not = weak, but it=92s not quite strong either) >=20 > Stas and Sebastian are talking about the unfortunate naming of the = current (non-scalar) type hints. Oh, of course. Perhaps we could say that the non-scalar type hints are = =93optional strict typing=94 and the scalar type hints are =93optional = firm typing=94? -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/