Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75664 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 65307 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2014 10:21:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2014 10:21:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.215.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.215.43 mail-la0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.215.43] ([209.85.215.43:50685] helo=mail-la0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B9/BA-09067-E93A7C35 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 06:21:19 -0400 Received: by mail-la0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hr17so1558211lab.16 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 03:21:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=9IYjW/1WyIw/kQuMNKJUonhXbskBo0QrTsVJwd5tstM=; b=xx0RXwH/zyBNRLJ6qiaj+KF6CKymvjfA5QZyc9eMRZQhIO2J/usMvwAZGX3x8wCkvl tHfbaoBXdEd5I5HjWAX2S5ALFrVwRUwBHNJkiLliMkQNDcYfD1Xtvu869YuBzwusmd2g TKkFeghNgAG7eESVyZrtPPPj7XgJD6pzVvPwTQpPyFvxkN8czoH5WZcHfT4d/2NZoPEi nLXUSuWcNiPHgod/u6w1dynnUG1nk/mnEbQSpYezv8EEqRwtpCSiTjjBIZ73kArEtG5h 7sOkUi4Wbfb0P3p8cMyMfBhtZbzHdiWC9trU2sGO2+Mqa/E9zD174p1rttz5R42RlOmo XzMw== X-Received: by 10.152.115.173 with SMTP id jp13mr31529743lab.6.1405592475904; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 03:21:15 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.128.202 with HTTP; Thu, 17 Jul 2014 03:20:35 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2014 19:20:35 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: _Iu6AF6ECe-6tjYiY7aSnloXvoY Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c235dc39b1d404fe6100c1 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Use of php_mt_rand() rather than php_rand() From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --001a11c235dc39b1d404fe6100c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi Pierre, On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 1:02 AM, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > RFC for this is created. > > > > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/use-php_mt_rand > > > > New rand() function name is TBD. I cannot think of good name, but > > I like rand_system(). rand() may stay as it is now also. > > I have mixed feelings about that. > > What did change since our last discussions? What are the benefits to > do it now? Also I really do no think it is worse the effort and the > addition to do it in 5.x. Yes, there are still apps out there relying > on rand only for areas where it should not be used, but how is it our > problem? I mean: the documentation is clear, have been updated and > clarified many times. > > I'd rather focus on doing one set of APIs for RNG for php6 and leave > that untouch for now. Would like me to address RNG? It's ok for me. This is not a critical issue. I don't mind at all to postpone this change. I'll wait to finish RNG implementation, then decide what we will do for this. I would like to finish session related changes first. (Most critical issue will be addressed in session-ng, though) Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --001a11c235dc39b1d404fe6100c1--