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Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Scalar Type Hinting With Casts (re-opening)
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> anything this RFC permits will
> be permitted by zpp, it's the reverse that isn't necessarily true.

Right, so it needs to be fixed.  It makes no sense to force a new agenda
on the language that's inconsistent with the rest of the language.  Align
your new feature to the rest of the language, not the other way around.

Zeev