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Date: Tue, 8 Jul 2014 11:19:02 +0200
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP
From: jpauli@php.net (Julien Pauli)

On Mon, Jul 7, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>> On 7 =D7=91=D7=99=D7=95=D7=9C 2014, at 08:59, Andrea Faulds <ajf@ajf.me>=
 wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 7 Jul 2014, at 13:57, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I don't think it's a problem, because I don't think we're two years
>>> away from releasing a phpng-based version and I don't think it's a
>>> moving target at this point.  So I agree we need to remove these
>>> uncertainties.
>>>
>>> I'm going to start an RFC-based discussion for moving phpng to master
>>> so that the uncertainties around it are removed.
>>
>> phpng has mostly been just performance so far, right? Could we use this =
opportunity, where it is not yet master, to make some deeper improvements?
>
> What do you mean by deeper improvements?
> phpng is focused on performance.  We can have other improvements for
> the next version of PHP, of course...

I'd like to start a discussion about IO multiplexing on that subject
as well. We could improve lots of performance of both the engine and
user scripts.
I already started a topic about it on internals, and I should write an
RFC about it.

I'm also worried about the API of future PHP-Next.
php-ng or not, I dont care. What I'd like is a clean API, and well
documented, so that it is not as hard to get into code as nowadays.
Nowadays its just very hard to put one's head into code when not
familiar with it. I want for PHP-Next something clean and documented
so that it will be even more open to new minds.

Julien.P