Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75298 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1142 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2014 12:07:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2014 12:07:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.199 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.199 imap11-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.199] ([192.64.116.199:59714] helo=imap11-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 34/01-21356-87D8AB35 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 08:07:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90B318800E7; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:07:17 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap11.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap11.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Q48BBxPPdCyJ; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:07:17 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andreas-air.home (host86-172-51-137.range86-172.btcentralplus.com [86.172.51.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B9FEB8800E2; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 08:07:15 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:07:12 +0100 Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <9FEC9EE2-942D-4039-9F3B-8802CC5F724C@ajf.me> References: <61EEC54E-7B8D-433E-A391-75F8D6A41E79@ajf.me> <650742796f119ed972a688a58e02242b@mail.gmail.com> To: Pierre Joye X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 7 Jul 2014, at 12:31, Pierre Joye wrote: > I seriously hope that you take 2015 as pure example here. As I see no > remote chance to be ready next year. PHPNG is a huge stack of > undocumented perf patches far from being ready, APIs &code cleanup did > not even begin, and the existing APIs are even more ugly. This is not > going to be a small task, besides other things that we may like to > have in the next major version. A 2 years development period sounds > much more realistic to me. I=92m perhaps a little bit optimistic. ;) But yes. 2015 was just the earliest possible year that PHP NEXT could = happen, though 2016 is probably more realistic. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/