Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75297 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97452 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2014 11:31:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2014 11:31:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.46 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.46 mail-qg0-f46.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.46] ([209.85.192.46:38777] helo=mail-qg0-f46.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 01/90-21356-DF48AB35 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 07:31:10 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f46.google.com with SMTP id q107so3481811qgd.33 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 04:31:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=0gwGSqhqnORpC1jjFZnx02pRv/xODEWnmvg/l3S2n38=; b=hoYxVF74xbLmC+jvOMWkiHv7Z9HZsAxDujswwy+rD8fmrGk4EtAWyxRUGuA8K6kfqf iTVJnX+wNN4PyZh3TW7WQM/WP02n7VrS8G+Dnnns3j9Dqlw10VhTTBsfFjQrV2A5tAdd +VdbEtzIbKNAgOJ0WQuCdIHsINhXYaSkNgZH7iilXdE6MBS7WMLrYjtqn5GsIwUwGoHY FQhMFi4hRbbqDvSrmyzJyMUpU/X12pkZLDGi6E0a6fSrF2W1prpMHB4OXpF/6KvE7OKu PEkVR1PTTrEAAcihb+ql0z7c4bvDTIxGSlQSj/aGu3IgmUSkeMi9nLehAHgAkoMZcdFa oHfg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.29.66 with SMTP id a60mr44371163qga.76.1404732666663; Mon, 07 Jul 2014 04:31:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.28.183 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2014 04:31:06 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <650742796f119ed972a688a58e02242b@mail.gmail.com> References: <61EEC54E-7B8D-433E-A391-75F8D6A41E79@ajf.me> <650742796f119ed972a688a58e02242b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2014 13:31:06 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) hi, On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 11:57 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > While I'm not sure whether this isn't a bit premature to have this > discussion, if we were to have this discussion, the RFC should do a much > better job at summarizing the discussions we already had in the past. I think it is not premature but also totally not important, but a matter of priorities I suppose... > First, it shouldn't be a yes/no for PHP 6, but rather, a 'PHP 6, PHP 7, or > Defer Decision' or at least 'PHP 6 / PHP 7'. Agree here, while my oppinion is clearly for 6, which is the next major version after 5, last time I checked. But as you said, no need to re do the discussions. > Another couple of cents - both because of what I said here but also > unrelated, I think /rfc/php6 is a bad name for this RFC (both because > there's more than one option, but also because this is too generic for > something as wide as the next version of PHP). Perhaps /rfc/php2015 is a > better choice, I seriously hope that you take 2015 as pure example here. As I see no remote chance to be ready next year. PHPNG is a huge stack of undocumented perf patches far from being ready, APIs &code cleanup did not even begin, and the existing APIs are even more ugly. This is not going to be a small task, besides other things that we may like to have in the next major version. A 2 years development period sounds much more realistic to me. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org