Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75292 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 44441 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2014 22:32:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2014 22:32:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.42 mail-oa0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.42] ([209.85.219.42:48842] helo=mail-oa0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 20/10-41729-89EC9B35 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 18:32:57 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id eb12so3699118oac.15 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:32:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=Rd9kDJmsGNM+6Oc2JGptiUz+LuS4/nGL1lE4Kcog3UM=; b=pQ0ZjNsq5j15STapKn/Hx0b66llR2b+YylrSbQK7S1MbeTSbzIsrcFlNUMtaMpo6AD v21NeV3Y0mzEZsBQUbmKTbfP2vTm1OUlwxgOf3rUHBum0M8utNzWW0tGOJAF2jAHWaIf bNRGK3glWcOBhkR3VJcPVk8/FIvT5mKn4l9rqhLJioDzs0VxMC2+pKOF49+uoLa+clJM 7WCtgnOiBu1RzXmpZiJhlt/BOxS9ZJtlhDHx8B0Fn+0QdBFEMPB5zjXcnZniP/fBGwO0 y1dP/tzP0F5K4eVnGUD8hKYwzbX3kkOIyWWH4wrSyimhqO0/01Va4KgWEe1Va8ufMPB8 Bh1A== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.204.103 with SMTP id kx7mr26293168obc.57.1404685974022; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 15:32:54 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.15.72 with HTTP; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 15:32:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <-1874712400170500779@unknownmsgid> References: <61EEC54E-7B8D-433E-A391-75F8D6A41E79@ajf.me> <1E40C2BC-3C86-4D20-9C34-C8E0B6BFF925@ajf.me> <-1874712400170500779@unknownmsgid> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 15:32:53 -0700 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Andrea Faulds , PHP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8ff1ce1080d1f404fd8df07b Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --e89a8ff1ce1080d1f404fd8df07b Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > As such I'd like to coauthor it with you and represent the case for 7. > Andrea, I would *strongly* recommend that you accept Zeev's offer and make him a co-author. You did present at least a partial argument for breaking the convention, but I think they do have a valid grievance in that some of their arguments are being left-out. This is understandable, as you have a bias in favor of preserving the order and keeping it at PHP 6. I actually agree with you 100% on this-- but that just means that I'm biased, too. It seems only fair that someone biased on the other side should be allowed to present his arguments and I'm sure he can be trusted to keep his edits to that one section. Likewise, you can then focus on expanding the arguments for preserving the convention if you think that's necessary. And thanks for updating the required majority. "2/3 either way" just seemed too ambiguous and confusing. In the unlikely event of an exact tie, I think we'd just regard the RFC as moot and proceed as if this RFC had never been presented. I'll certainly be arguing strongly in favor of PHP 6 being the next version as I have in the past, but in the interest of fairness, Zeev should be made a co-author and given the mandate to write a section representing the arguments against PHP 6. That way, if the vote goes for PHP 6 and people want to say it's because the arguments against in the RFC weren't good enough, that'll be on him instead of you. --Kris --e89a8ff1ce1080d1f404fd8df07b--