Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75284 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 14067 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2014 15:12:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2014 15:12:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jocelyn.fournier@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jocelyn.fournier@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jocelyn.fournier@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.176 mail-we0-f176.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.176] ([74.125.82.176:53849] helo=mail-we0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0E/50-12239-66769B35 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 11:12:40 -0400 Received: by mail-we0-f176.google.com with SMTP id u56so3320664wes.35 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:12:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:cc:subject :references:in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=2vqwqcCQmMHbkSC+RpHGRnDu5TmVzbFIx4LqSYi9t9g=; b=RBtGDLy/i+zoVztiyetDDPAAjfTWbl0sDRsdu94Z2XbO61jTOZ8JJZQ8AYuJWRr2Bw r4ucfda8Rhzghuz+rnD1GvzmynKifdioBtyOvgbXCZRtfb8a/JO5LmBHXCdCwnAOvzk6 ReXDfcl+nlQeK59/QZwftisKZaV/DnFCq8yZy1kof2QvAK3tsMb+IA9XiAfHxESkd1gy f/AtCMU1ChqW+o3KDezGK39BrifMkCiyEHaICwmBZ1J0fglEkN/Xqzgn98f5ShLRXtvE +qiRZoKlZHRi9GMoMhMDlk0ijtxhCUPntKbHpnX10/M7wHb04a2uS9DLx6Y4vTiMH7P/ eLSw== X-Received: by 10.194.119.9 with SMTP id kq9mr26060586wjb.49.1404659556002; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:12:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from Mac-Pro.local (ven06-1-82-234-156-61.fbx.proxad.net. [82.234.156.61]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ek3sm83072816wjd.17.2014.07.06.08.12.33 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 06 Jul 2014 08:12:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <53B9675F.5030605@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2014 17:12:31 +0200 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.10; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: kris.craig@gmail.com, ajf@ajf.me CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <61EEC54E-7B8D-433E-A391-75F8D6A41E79@ajf.me> <650742796f119ed972a688a58e02242b@mail.gmail.com> <1e8b4df08c14971746946ed85ca8fa22@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <1e8b4df08c14971746946ed85ca8fa22@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: jocelyn.fournier@gmail.com (Jocelyn Fournier) Hi, Le 06/07/2014 03:13, Zeev Suraski a écrit : > I want to point out that neither options (6 nor 7) break the our > convention. PHP 6 was a live project that was worked on by many people, > and known as such by many many more; Even though it never reached GA – > there was definitely software named PHP 6. Whether reusing that version > number for something completely different several years later constitutes > breaking the current convention or applying it to reality it is open for > interpretation. I also suggest we don’t go in the direction of the 2/3 > interpretation – as I pointed out in the past this places undue power in > the hands of the RFC author and his interpretation of the voting RFC (which > absolutely needs to be amended to fix that). That’s yet another reason on > why the vote should be between 6 or 7 so that problem goes away completely > – it becomes a clear choice that will have result in a clear cut decision. > It's my first post in this list, and wanted to share my external point of view, with a parallel with the MySQL world. MySQL 6 was alpha in 2007 and finally was never released. So far its name has never been reused (instead we had MySQL 5.6 and 5.7 to avoid confusion, and there are also books about PHP 6 / MySQL 6) Even on the MariaDB side, they bumped up the version to 10.0 to avoid confusion (and because it was not based on MySQL 5.6). There are quite a few tutorials and reference about PHP 6 on the web, it would be misleading to have something completely different, but with the same name as the "old" PHP 6. However I'm not convinced "7" is the right choice, perhaps a radical change in version number would be better ? -- Jocelyn Fournier