Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75283 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 12340 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2014 15:08:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2014 15:08:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.216 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.216 imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.216] ([192.64.116.216:41163] helo=imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 72/00-12239-D5669B35 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 11:08:13 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id B22642400C7; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:08:10 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap10.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap10.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id ytkGTfB2rttM; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:08:10 -0400 (EDT) Received: from andreas-air.home (host86-172-51-137.range86-172.btcentralplus.com [86.172.51.137]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 7EF2B2400C2; Sun, 6 Jul 2014 11:08:08 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) In-Reply-To: <53B953A8.7070904@lsces.co.uk> Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 16:08:02 +0100 Cc: PHP internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <61EEC54E-7B8D-433E-A391-75F8D6A41E79@ajf.me> <1E40C2BC-3C86-4D20-9C34-C8E0B6BFF925@ajf.me> <53B953A8.7070904@lsces.co.uk> To: Lester Caine X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 6 Jul 2014, at 14:48, Lester Caine wrote: > Andrea - Your total disregard for anything other then a a single = reason > related to books is a problem here. While printed /electronic books = are > a part of the problem with the tag PHP6, there are considerable > additional references to that tag over the last 10+ years, along with = a > substantial amount of code in the code base which was a dead end. PHP6 > has been linked with development work which will not now be taken = forward. I don=92t have a total disregard for it. I acknowledge the argument that = PHP 6 was a real thing, although it never was released properly and was = eventually abandoned. If the RFC isn=92t clear enough about this = argument, again, I welcome suggestions to improve it. I=92d suggest talking with me on IRC about it (#php.pecl on EFNet) if = you catch me there, might mean less noise than here on the list. Of = course, nothing wrong with email. > To some extent WHAT the next version is released as is perhaps not the > problem here, but rather being able to simply identify third party > discussions relating to the current roadmap(s) for PHPNext? It's just > the matter of ring fencing what is the current roadmap and plan for > PHPNext and isolating that from the older existing PHP6 documented = plans > ... The use of PHP7 can be simply explained, fits in perfectly with = the > code base, and provides a clean tag to move forward? Using some > alternative tag until a release is ready and then switching back to = PHP6 > simply does not make sense? We have no PHP-6 or PHP-6.0 tag/branch in git, I see no reason why we = wouldn=92t call it PHP 6 before release, if we decide to call it PHP 6, = of course. I think it=92s generally clear what=92s for the new PHP 6 and what=92s = for the old; anything from after the old PHP 6 was abandoned must be = about a new PHP 6, and anything from before it must be about the old PHP = 6. If this RFC were to pass with people voting for 6, then it would be = pretty clear that anything coming after it was about the new PHP 6. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/