Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75279 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 96517 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2014 10:45:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2014 10:45:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=php@tutteli.ch; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=php@tutteli.ch; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain tutteli.ch designates 80.74.154.78 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: php@tutteli.ch X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.74.154.78 ns73.kreativmedia.ch Linux 2.6 Received: from [80.74.154.78] ([80.74.154.78:48000] helo=hyperion.kreativmedia.ch) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0F/51-16090-CD829B35 for ; Sun, 06 Jul 2014 06:45:50 -0400 Received: (qmail 6000 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2014 12:45:44 +0200 Received: from 178.165.131.25.wireless.dyn.drei.com (HELO RoLaptop) (178.165.131.25) by ns73.kreativmedia.ch with (AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Jul 2014 12:45:43 +0200 To: "'Pierre Joye'" , "'Tjerk Meesters'" , "'PHP internals'" References: <002b01cf9784$4c1fe670$e45fb350$@tutteli.ch> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 6 Jul 2014 12:45:40 +0200 Message-ID: <003601cf9907$6f852010$4e8f6030$@tutteli.ch> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQEXw8xSC1llRw+ZtijSr3FQoKfQBQIyjvgLAeIlKlYCNl3q0wGCMQrUA2EMrWkCkrqXewEhIYpuAdc6/3ScfLmrAA== Content-Language: de-ch Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] not_null function From: php@tutteli.ch ("Robert Stoll") > -----Original Message----- > From: Pierre Joye [mailto:pierre.php@gmail.com] > Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2014 10:06 AM > To: Tjerk Meesters; PHP internals > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] not_null function >=20 > On Jul 5, 2014 9:43 AM, "Tjerk Meesters" > wrote: > > >=20 > > Obviously spoke to soon ... what I've written there is basically an = ugly > > `!isset($var)`. > > >=20 > Totally fail to see what is ugly with is set or the difference with > exists(). The latter, in the context of php (even more with phpng) = makes > little sense. >=20 > Besides that, I am not sure what is the goal of this thread. Adding = aliases > to copy cat ? [Robert Stoll]=20 I really don't see what you have against copy cat if = this language has actually solved a problem nicely (hence PHP could = benefit from the idea). And in my case I did not copy cat for but suggested something which would actually solve the problem = at hand. And don't you think that should be the point of this discussion = and not throwing in such questions which are merely deconstructive? = (aren't you the guy who wrote those emails about giving good feedback = via email... I found them interesting). But anyway, we really shouldn't = discuss this point on the internal list, feel free to write to me in = private.