Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75277 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 70195 invoked from network); 6 Jul 2014 02:07:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 6 Jul 2014 02:07:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=kris.craig@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=kris.craig@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.214.172 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: kris.craig@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.214.172 mail-ob0-f172.google.com Received: from [209.85.214.172] ([209.85.214.172:56642] helo=mail-ob0-f172.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F3/56-30974-D5FA8B35 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 22:07:26 -0400 Received: by mail-ob0-f172.google.com with SMTP id uy5so3131006obc.17 for ; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:07:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=YnESdnez11lSRd+K2ygRJuGfj45Jo/wNbStbJDsaDv8=; b=Q+6GrAXNtqiJbz0s1KacdFpCkUgwwyFnZNLGJ+q+kbXDrtETT6/U+hnd0iEdIiv0Pv xSyUQo7TP6h1G7CRMdR6WUlfeS7aUuNCjMIq4TMHZPQgPrWp2Q3urmkLRP5nHuR52h+O 3wzCyYMdbBu7KMjnfvgMI7Zi4bWzgoUWoB0R5yYv9/awGxD8FA99Q+1FoqcgqJ0fiicG Cl8KYhCiAsPLzeuNtp0A98uzl8WxyxUTtmetR0EAjYouwb3Af9OmmGDDo2XFiKOqzJbM EiDItB9vqz2nLrhN6jpPGjimJk1z/TDTux+xKlfeOk0uIUFI2Tv80oe+tuIWrTqua6w6 E0Ew== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.20.169 with SMTP id o9mr22012921obe.59.1404612442946; Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:07:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.202.15.72 with HTTP; Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:07:22 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <61EEC54E-7B8D-433E-A391-75F8D6A41E79@ajf.me> <650742796f119ed972a688a58e02242b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 19:07:22 -0700 Message-ID: To: Andrea Faulds Cc: Zeev Suraski , PHP Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f6426a0b5821a04fd7cd160 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] Name of Next Release of PHP From: kris.craig@gmail.com (Kris Craig) --e89a8f6426a0b5821a04fd7cd160 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 5:42 PM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > On 6 Jul 2014, at 01:29, Kris Craig wrote: > > > I would, however, recommend that Andrea take Zeev's input and create a > more comprehensive section outlining his arguments in favor of breaking > from the current convention. Another section could be created to outline > the other side. What we don't want is a situation where Zeev feels > compelled to write a competing RFC. That could get messy, so I think it'= d > be best if the two of you could find enough common ground to make this RF= C > acceptable to both sides. > > Right. As I said, I=E2=80=99m willing to improve the Rationale section wi= th > suggestions, I just can=E2=80=99t think of many other arguments for at th= e moment. > Perhaps I need to delve deeper and read some more previous discussions. I= =E2=80=99m > not in favour of the version skip, and though I can play devil=E2=80=99s = advocate, > I am not really very good at doing so here. I don=E2=80=99t dispute that = the > Rationale section could do with improvement. > > > > > I'd also recommend that, since you're calling for a 2/3 vote, you > specify more clearly what it is that requires 2/3; breaking the current > convention or keeping the current convention? I'm guessing you probably > meant the former, but the wording seemed a bit vague on that point to me. > > I=E2=80=99m not exactly sure what you=E2=80=99re talking about here, but = to clarify: It is > a 2/3 majority-required vote on whether or not the name should be PHP 6. > That would be in line with the current convention of incrementing the maj= or > version number. > > That's exactly my point; i.e. "2/3.... whether or not" seems ambiguous to me. Does that mean that a 2/3 "yes" vote is required for the version to be PHP 6? Or does it mean that a 2/3 "no" vote is required for the version *not* to be PHP 6? --Kris --e89a8f6426a0b5821a04fd7cd160--