Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75049 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 32608 invoked from network); 23 Jun 2014 09:43:06 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 23 Jun 2014 09:43:06 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=julienpauli@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=julienpauli@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.128.180 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.180 mail-ve0-f180.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.180] ([209.85.128.180:39798] helo=mail-ve0-f180.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4B/00-31869-7A6F7A35 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 05:43:05 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f180.google.com with SMTP id jw12so5816481veb.39 for ; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:43:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=jOXnjsVuid84nbtIvZvQXEfcZpFrpKibWLPRfHgbLgM=; b=bvUr6FHZoR4nlnzWonePyil+fPlHrgOT3TzhNubLvnMX4EAnEdEGQ8EFdneI/TbKEC gwM9hk0LjLnlR9kYNtLNsCRfv2BtFruTmXZCs8Sc6mcU3yuqxBet1PeGxgkZCqV6wem3 qdFv7KI9P9XLCQILQSrDdQQJzaVMZxz7WiRZH29XvWX6aHlb9B+BRUDpP4UNFtaEk2Qe ZiwjU4js+jsHgThJvd2g5srSEAnYxFtQVUxcEVSPRk14X7GHJDjRVM0LaqH0MmFnviZp JTUlFy/QYsRpwXUOy4giG9XhPTRiylxhd4y+hGKZpqH/BOWBrsiza1vMkQf0hv+Kx/Az u4BQ== X-Received: by 10.52.23.71 with SMTP id k7mr13514264vdf.27.1403516580881; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:43:00 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: julienpauli@gmail.com Received: by 10.220.81.68 with HTTP; Mon, 23 Jun 2014 02:42:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53A1C722.9060501@fedoraproject.org> <53A21137.6010705@sugarcrm.com> <53A2A9BD.1070603@sugarcrm.com> <53A3874E.20704@sugarcrm.com> <53A65578.6000701@sugarcrm.com> <53A772D0.3010404@sugarcrm.com> <53A7F056.8000402@beccati.com> Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2014 11:42:20 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: BOfJFVUcleiM6-vycv1R0Z0U8EE Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Matteo Beccati , Stas Malyshev , Sebastian Bergmann , Remi Collet , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: Bug 67072 resolution for 5.4/5.5 From: jpauli@php.net (Julien Pauli) On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > > > > On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 11:16 AM, Matteo Beccati wrote: >> >> Hi Julien, >> >> On 23/06/2014 09:54, Julien Pauli wrote: >> > I'm also ok for the 5.6 statements : >> > - Disalow O: for classes with custom serializer >> > - Unlock newInstanceArgWithoutConstructor() for internal classes >> > >> > Note that unlocking newInstanceArgWithoutConstructor() for internal >> > classes may require lot of work. >> > Remi already tried to patch some extensions for them to work AFAIR. >> >> With 5.6.0 being RC1 already, would someone have time and be willing to >> commit doing all the work required without delaying the stable release? >> I'm not entirely sure, but I certainly hope I'm wrong. >> > > What do you mean? > I can promise that the 5.6 RMs (Julien and Me) will make sure that we have > this sorted out for 5.6 before we have the final release if that is what you > are asking for. Sure. We can delay. We may delay. If the quality of the project is involved, we will delay. 5.4 has been delayed, with 8 RCs before final, because of unresolvable bug at this time. However, for 5.6, we are already late on the schedule. Last RC of 5.4 was taggued in February , our 1st RC for 5.6 has been taggued in June. If we go for checking all the internal classes shipped in the distribution, then we should start the task ASAP. We cant delay too much, and I think it is reasonable to have a release during the summer. Julien