Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:75033 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 18072 invoked from network); 21 Jun 2014 20:16:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Jun 2014 20:16:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.216 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.216 imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.216] ([192.64.116.216:36296] helo=imap10-3.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 45/E1-06324-828E5A35 for ; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:16:40 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9C90D2400D4; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:16:37 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap10.ox.privateemail.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap10.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 9Dw6QeSt9QSq; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:16:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.15] (unknown [90.210.122.167]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id DAA682400D0; Sat, 21 Jun 2014 16:16:35 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) In-Reply-To: <20140621200548.77D3726161D@dd15934.kasserver.com> Date: Sat, 21 Jun 2014 21:16:32 +0100 Cc: nikita.ppv@gmail.com, internals@lists.php.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <3F6CB20C-31E1-49A3-BF0C-E1423D3E8D89@ajf.me> References: <469CC1CB-D16B-46AF-B65D-48C6312741CF@ajf.me> <20140621200548.77D3726161D@dd15934.kasserver.com> To: Thomas Bley X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] (restart) Bare Name Array Literal/Dereference From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 21 Jun 2014, at 21:05, Thomas Bley wrote: > just for simplicity, using $array->key instead of $array:>key would be = nice. It would be. The problem with that, though, is that it would limit = possibly more useful ideas in that space, for example, we couldn=92t = implement Nikita=92s scalar methods,* which I=92d very much like. *Technically, we still could, but it=92d be a bit confusing IMO, and I=92d= like to see certain scalar properties as well, ->length for instance. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/