Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74979 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56088 invoked from network); 18 Jun 2014 22:34:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 18 Jun 2014 22:34:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=yohgaki@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=yohgaki@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.176 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.176 mail-lb0-f176.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.176] ([209.85.217.176:43736] helo=mail-lb0-f176.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B0/81-46307-10412A35 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 18:34:41 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f176.google.com with SMTP id w7so923971lbi.21 for ; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:34:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=otY3Woe8ugDWRorY5BawR7riXebubFzpi/oogfY+G3w=; b=Ida95tj4IrjnEtJB7fITqfcH1KAIVaMlLEfXsMfUE7HZXh3cpfUwM14l3wzC2US823 oSCnvDybb2Z7t3ZiJ13Qnm98OD1IwaRaKTgSQmY+4//TBggXYajCqigCshOCzRDjRrXo P4i4jVsgSj4iSgl3JNOa4VSfiBB5VsJeMtHWoZimzRVLXxk2a90zNcOq+fV6fvbQcSg+ KCqgjXklM+heVTBtb2oh1X+KaRUNPr/pSAxISDbPZ/cHgCZ6Yr9z+D1KxB5C67ehdvpA xLmrRtK462xdRAQNU1Lw2++4i3VQxShXj/nnSptyLjO9VCm43QlnGFfscQj692VWZaVK heAg== X-Received: by 10.152.170.193 with SMTP id ao1mr545956lac.27.1403130878069; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:34:38 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: yohgaki@gmail.com Received: by 10.112.14.9 with HTTP; Wed, 18 Jun 2014 15:33:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53A00AC1.2050001@lsces.co.uk> Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2014 07:33:57 +0900 X-Google-Sender-Auth: kWM4kjCo-XKbV65nuEX9yiCpxJw Message-ID: To: Sebastian Krebs Cc: Lester Caine , PHP internals list Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0115e8708f908a04fc23dd62 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP6, drop open_basedir? From: yohgaki@ohgaki.net (Yasuo Ohgaki) --089e0115e8708f908a04fc23dd62 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi all, On Tue, Jun 17, 2014 at 6:34 PM, Sebastian Krebs wrote: > In my experiene it only leads to a false sense of security. I've seen it > more than once, that people just set a value there and believed, that they > are now safe. On the other hand they wonder, why many things were broken, > so they loosen the restrictions again. > I agree that many users do not understand what it does and what it's for. It's a fail safe feature that should not be trusted. open_basedir should not be trusted, but it does not mean it's useless just like antivirus softwares. Security features do not have to be perfect to be useful. I'm -1 for removing open_basedir. If there are users who misunderstand what it's for, we should improve our documentation. IMHO. Regards, -- Yasuo Ohgaki yohgaki@ohgaki.net --089e0115e8708f908a04fc23dd62--