Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74933 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 69927 invoked from network); 17 Jun 2014 09:01:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jun 2014 09:01:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=listas@rafaeldohms.com.br; sender-id=fail Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=listas@rafaeldohms.com.br; spf=fail; sender-id=fail Received-SPF: fail (pb1.pair.com: domain rafaeldohms.com.br does not designate 209.85.216.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: listas@rafaeldohms.com.br X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.45 mail-qa0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.45] ([209.85.216.45:50267] helo=mail-qa0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 55/10-03356-2E300A35 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 05:01:23 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id v10so8745865qac.4 for ; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:01:20 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=D2gHLXt7aSosxlFT49EGJz53SyYBKelBbifnvsnAkXA=; b=Lgo/D1XLSbx62RjlwmBeWVzQeRtnbzyUG/PI30dVowTdCnhIlvk4uhVWLKSA8QO50h yUH7zJwc5i6ByxDr9v6yJFl3Bp08R8bfHEk74nlZ6LHx6FYCzvsMVtcOBMN3LSIQlklJ /wQzSJJvrnPDlIyVOExzjOLUw+x9kEUKidJV9+bwWZNztxPK+lCmalmv4xTPPCdYsCUR 1BB7JmW0IY9c3IYccnEmu15QhAF14XYAUgDlvhtKEe+jAcxD3k3Fmm6vSqdrH2UTTpTS gJYroTErZb7FBMUSjjnG0JqISXBMt/l7euPgtuWjxS6hGu9fb9zaxm968av49G57kFy8 /5+Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnLJcvm0+hO74MQZSUHxylmnmd5VtkdVfo9Nki+v0NUOdfsMklihjBk3emEB7qCCZ3oJtXK MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.166.201 with SMTP id n9mr34506623qay.62.1402995679867; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:01:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.37.139 with HTTP; Tue, 17 Jun 2014 02:01:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53886F73.70402@php.net> <1401810913.2282.81.camel@guybrush> <538DFEB1.7030207@fedoraproject.org> <538EAD75.5020402@fedoraproject.org> <539B0888.9040208@fedoraproject.org> Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2014 11:01:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Marco Pivetta Cc: Remi Collet , internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0139ffde1ec95c04fc046362 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] BC break in 5.4.29 and 5.5.13 From: listas@rafaeldohms.com.br (Rafael Dohms) --089e0139ffde1ec95c04fc046362 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 4:25 PM, Marco Pivetta wrote: > On 13 June 2014 16:19, Remi Collet wrote: > > > See my proposal > > http://marc.info/?l=php-internals&m=140257374715698&w=2 > > > > Not designed as a fix, but rather a small improvement to make this hack > > possible for Internal and Serializable classes > > > > Thanks Remi, that looks indeed like what we'd want :-) > > Marco Pivetta > > http://twitter.com/Ocramius > > http://ocramius.github.com/ > Its a BC break people. It does not matter if we think A or B are correct, a point release CANNOT break BC. It has been 18 days without a 5.5.14 release or a rollback of 5.5.13. This is highly unacceptable and irresponsible of a core language. I cannot understand why we are discussing this and leaving userland broken, this affect a lot more the phpunit/doctrine. Rollback the release, or release a 5.5.14 release that fixes it, THEN you discuss what the proper thing should be and worry about it in 5.5.15. -- Rafael Dohms PHP Evangelist and Community Leader http://doh.ms http://www.amsterdamphp.nl --089e0139ffde1ec95c04fc046362--