Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74623 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42634 invoked from network); 29 May 2014 08:47:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 May 2014 08:47:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.220.42 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.42 mail-pa0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.42] ([209.85.220.42:43837] helo=mail-pa0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A1/55-07154-534F6835 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 04:47:51 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f42.google.com with SMTP id rd3so31344pab.15 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:47:47 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=KHnFQFjqCoFbCN3iOAzN8T4jqCN+NfVNFEhogaaAtC4=; b=YMFM7sitD2LNEOdkAJknHVeuvGN7Eq/RrHn5c6N8GqBw807KY7J5c2FA7/g6RQL6jl V4IbCdptxGZ1lICNZ/RqouMaySiYWE0nuoFadGkRwSN5PlnwuATxEFt4ZK7zCAahehVl UxhNeb7/Y+VzEHXAnOOB2haoHm8PJqzck4b24/JaxgrjanRidhIsDnZcLIMhMEpNs/xF C67x/zRmpwjeY1MEcGzM0p25DWnkbefzFXqRUobGc6ZIayaRqLTkqonQUfVFceqx1MFw Zb71zk+PYgenIX+4SzCalY4HSBN8xFasY/2pwU0izfdLpxhwrVOttl4GIe4bEZcfSSwV RL/Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm/nSmUUvsIrInJ6BIyOyWtvNuzgdXUkXgT2/44UyQQW3yxZBmQosUo+MDgBUbuBCnAkdYy X-Received: by 10.66.97.4 with SMTP id dw4mr6664564pab.55.1401353267378; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:47:47 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.30] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id sv10sm32259758pbc.74.2014.05.29.01.47.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 May 2014 01:47:46 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5386F431.2020905@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 01:47:45 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Zeev Suraski , Joe Watkins CC: PHP Internals , php-webmaster References: <5777562771914574713@unknownmsgid> <1401303702.2998.111.camel@guybrush> <4f7609c82c063f3bb73aed990a7debf7@mail.gmail.com> <452088db796932d97cc99159ca520bc0@mail.gmail.com> <5386EAE3.8090402@l erdorf.com> <3182f5d426f0823d9d34eab77bff953e@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <3182f5d426f0823d9d34eab77bff953e@mail.gmail.com> X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="e6CKJA8guiuSkl5fVggUJO23p7f47El2g" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) --e6CKJA8guiuSkl5fVggUJO23p7f47El2g Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/29/14, 1:45 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> Joe, the root problem here is that turning www.php.net into a develope= r >> blog is a decision that takes a bit more than a couple of people agree= ing >> late >> at night on irc when many of us were asleep. At the very least a quick= >> email >> to webmaster@ would have been in order. >=20 > I want to point out the obvious and - putting blog entries on www.php.n= et > requires a radical change in how we view www.php.net and I'm not even s= ure > what process would have to be followed in order to get there; Also, an= > email to webmaster@ would have helped us become aware of the problem mo= re > quickly - but let's be clear to everyone, those changes shouldn't get o= nto > www.php.net, message to webmaster@ or not. I'm pretty sure that's what= you > meant, just wanted to make sure nobody misreads it as a carte blanche t= o > commit such blog entries if 5 people give thumbs up and a notification = is > sent to webmaster@. I meant that a note to webmaster@ would have alerted the rest of the web team and we would have avoided this whole mess. -Rasmus --e6CKJA8guiuSkl5fVggUJO23p7f47El2g Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlOG9DEACgkQlxayKTuqOuC8BQCePHGd/Fx5VcVpXE4oF94oqsVP K+cAnRpNmq60ZgPJ8MxsJXNZ3583qUiB =CI/z -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --e6CKJA8guiuSkl5fVggUJO23p7f47El2g--