Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74621 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37941 invoked from network); 29 May 2014 08:36:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 May 2014 08:36:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.170 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.170 mail-ve0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.170] ([209.85.128.170:35020] helo=mail-ve0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id D9/54-07154-F91F6835 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 04:36:49 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f170.google.com with SMTP id db11so13615veb.29 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:36:45 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=xot219DNuRbL/0IJYj3R5JkGjdLmdyNLviaIuHi/I6U=; b=i3YWRVmgLbZeX8mxmOEPb4l1mTh5mhQXBqqATfXatHrNu4rBv3c2in8b3KQxtR6q/9 ZLYcWJHwP0DqxCNuccAeO8gqj2QQ4xqYw9cby93KAXGA9Zy0QurwvC1LELag/nQ3QfqL XGhsRzQ5IIrYL26oym5j+yk/PCWBBUvXXhZxl2Jhhoo/XevLjbsqqZNDt8TYX4W7AbHs vgS6GTZiFDBOdrMjSmc5/fpoBT2gWFmZ8aVJVlHCH+gz3pBKGALZV9IS2Q6L0A6ZhsER 9VAE1MLcztqJONm0rZ1y5FYfS8YtDArnA/zpSYNGXcWHldw0qf2IIvMGVx86Py+BkrcE wIwA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmP2JyDL/8zQJX36Ivy4cunWJLlyIajTNg17yvscLFOclw6ExxRTmHzS/QOJ4xf78OmBq5wFj/Erd5Sgb7MkU/RsLI86EL8mJxNCd87A+Jvr7U4TAHlPGK+1ipgRiLTQf67fjRL X-Received: by 10.221.26.10 with SMTP id rk10mr5306004vcb.0.1401352604911; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:36:44 -0700 (PDT) References: <998f4156545f1b2fe88c0f1e64b94015@mail.gmail.com> <5777562771914574713@unknownmsgid> <1401303702.2998.111.camel@guybrush> <4f7609c82c063f3bb73aed990a7debf7@mail.gmail.com> <452088db796932d97cc99159ca520bc0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGmJDgvAkP0sKjJxzC2NytXAGOEhQKC9EkOAh3eYg0BMzT5DwIZT6LZAqBw9IMCVZjPQgIH2QP5AY3VswwBxRduawJwxf39AgECalIC8HbNEwIeSVDCAW1rRXMB9+8dCAEYLZ8ZAlg3O64DNdAoVJp7lfxw Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 11:36:43 +0300 Message-ID: <11842cb80553fc6e25c100ac953ce1c2@mail.gmail.com> To: Joe Watkins Cc: PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11339ae438977804fa85d4fb Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) --001a11339ae438977804fa85d4fb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Zeev, it's cowardly to say "I don't know who it was" or "it doesn't matter who it was", you can read my name on the commit, and know full well who it was, if you have something to say, say it. Joe, I think you just derailed this conversation in a manner that I=E2=80=99m su= rprised so many people answered you and didn=E2=80=99t point out that kind of talk = is unacceptable. Until this email, I did not know nor did I care who did this. Of course I could come up with that name if I wanted to, but that would imply it mattered, and it doesn=E2=80=99t. What I cared about is the undoing the de= ed and preventing it from happening again, not playing a blame game. What I do have to say to you is the same thing I mistakenly said to the wrong person yesterday: *=E2=80=9CI'm really not sure why you're still fighting this. If I were in= your shoes I'd admit messing up, apologize, and quickly remove this post. And I'm not flaming or bashing anybody, we're all humans and we all make mistakes.=E2=80=9D* While you=E2=80=99re at it, consider apologizing for your unacceptable choi= ce of words. Zeev --001a11339ae438977804fa85d4fb--