Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74615 php.webmaster:19053 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 27837 invoked from network); 29 May 2014 08:08:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 29 May 2014 08:08:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 209.85.220.52 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.52 mail-pa0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.52] ([209.85.220.52:63003] helo=mail-pa0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AF/42-07154-9EAE6835 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 04:08:09 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f52.google.com with SMTP id fa1so12487695pad.39 for ; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:08:06 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to :cc:subject:references:in-reply-to:content-type; bh=DMGfC+xSmBHp9WIexOk26KxlOkrKC3v7IBaCu758lwY=; b=cZA5ZGCP+zqJnH2MzMuPUMCcacxPsbEufXo8+5lgVdT5wfHWW++5CBF8yonI+R/w5U iPTZPbFtzejpDvvNAxSllfg03r1RkAfejF+CX4okqNk4nVpvP91JVtA40okmhb4fJlhw 2843hkSd7O6uAo1odB26XnfSUfhE6jRO6no3i6ICMG3/One4KgNN2tMRrT4fVR1sm7A9 351VOhpw5IQbzEFht9IA6amblsr+rt+vIsj1iBOvNWB7fQ1+APwI4GKsDuj9YloZMwpQ yP8QLYZYWI14PEinDDa9K7N3A/O6wVcIGGh+qTA1U17OnacrwBG4W2qant88nOeGL27L kWTw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnwhausMFxNNb3KZ4e2IVBUVDyYd0BRzm5fgdzb69/zngAnak8G+oq8XzK88givSme5PrSF X-Received: by 10.68.220.137 with SMTP id pw9mr6844544pbc.24.1401350886292; Thu, 29 May 2014 01:08:06 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.200.30] (c-50-131-44-225.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [50.131.44.225]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id g6sm100673254pat.2.2014.05.29.01.08.04 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 29 May 2014 01:08:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5386EAE3.8090402@lerdorf.com> Date: Thu, 29 May 2014 01:08:03 -0700 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.9; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Joe Watkins , Levi Morrison CC: Kris Craig , Zeev Suraski , Ferenc Kovacs , =?UTF-8?B?Sm9oYW5uZXMgU2NobMO8dGVy?= , Michael Wallner , Andi Gutmans , PHP Internals , php-webmaster References: <5777562771914574713@unknownmsgid> <1401303702.2998.111.camel@guybrush> <4f7609c82c063f3bb73aed990a7debf7@mail.gmail.com> <452088db796932d97cc99159ca520bc0@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="8j0tbG66hB2vmr7QkKHFJTrv30xR4L1f1" Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) --8j0tbG66hB2vmr7QkKHFJTrv30xR4L1f1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 5/29/14, 12:40 AM, Joe Watkins wrote: > Those people I respect understand what I was doing and why, and are sti= ll > supportive of the idea to have a developer blog it's just a shame that = we > seem to have a community that is incompatible, completely incompatible.= Joe, the root problem here is that turning www.php.net into a developer blog is a decision that takes a bit more than a couple of people agreeing late at night on irc when many of us were asleep. At the very least a quick email to webmaster@ would have been in order. I don't see this as an incompatible community issue (what does that even mean?) at all. Waking up and seeing a blog entry on www.php.net came as a surprise to many of us and that is where the reaction came from. -Rasmus --8j0tbG66hB2vmr7QkKHFJTrv30xR4L1f1 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG/MacGPG2 v2.0.22 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iEYEARECAAYFAlOG6uQACgkQlxayKTuqOuBxmgCfRraSsLqaVkdPz3xgW8e0O3jm guAAnR7wxmhBkbXmha30Rln8DyJJqJ8T =L+V1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --8j0tbG66hB2vmr7QkKHFJTrv30xR4L1f1--