Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74596 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56200 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 16:58:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 16:58:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.173 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.173 mail-ve0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.173] ([209.85.128.173:54099] helo=mail-ve0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1A/3A-02991-2B516835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 12:58:26 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id pa12so12934524veb.32 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:58:24 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=RnQPeRFFGHa24PdmZUIkxijEG/exeU9WvUSlJkaUveU=; b=Y11Ycion+41H8VvuVr1PF9HlquDPjFQWMPKfoIzzBgMt3KISvSxcg6lGmCLvvLRbq6 v7WNDC/ORBzp/3y/qK/BM7m3SQ2LUFYrLoQI7ZzUlDXU6aWmV6zSlhMJOYYeC0+cOKgg MgTeP6YIMEjmeBqI//Xr8QUvkqx5lkveHPRF5W85QxiFeJ/YHitQx/d/bRTFU52GYZHa IYJq1vzx+fFvwoO/Tflb2j4y2JbEZTYJQpRdiwrk/2TRQcjz2K/gCQrkamNYJheirLDV TMxsOvMscp/GXexLLqOF3zL7oOOyKbDurN3qwKo56S6JBpUjXw09/KwFUdx9s6WLOKYz afKw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm6Gw5J7KH66VYbQlCGx2VNUMh4SwvpLITEecpEHE3dS0scq+5arpOKFd6NP8+UJUYOj58WvCgjGBhHOTCtA3r9LyVUiE5mGp6iDBgKVvjzEfphPBuI77/MRfwuJy9q8pgccH0H X-Received: by 10.52.99.168 with SMTP id er8mr1076782vdb.26.1401296302492; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:58:22 -0700 (PDT) References: <998f4156545f1b2fe88c0f1e64b94015@mail.gmail.com> <5777562771914574713@unknownmsgid> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGmJDgvAkP0sKjJxzC2NytXAGOEhQKC9EkOAh3eYg0BMzT5DwIZT6LZAqBw9IMCVZjPQgIH2QP5AY3VswwBxRduawJwxf39mwNrhvA= Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 19:58:22 +0300 Message-ID: <5f6e6196e0b7cac6017d9b8672df57a2@mail.gmail.com> To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Levi Morrison , Michael Wallner , Andi Gutmans , PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf3071cab055e6ba04fa78b87d Subject: RE: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) --20cf3071cab055e6ba04fa78b87d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I agree that this doesn't belong to the frontpage, nor do we did ever have stuff like this there. But I also think that removing it would do more harm than good at this point. Why? What=E2=80=99s bad about properly retracting it and explaining it was= n=E2=80=99t meant for www.php.net? I=E2=80=99m not arguing for a 404. I also think that having a easier to understand channel and posts like this to communicate the roadmap and development of the project would be a nice thing to have (as long as we don't try to use the frontpage for that). Agreed. So I would suggest checking out the updated version from Levi, and discuss if it still has any controversial stuff. Again I have a hard time accepting it as the very existence of the post on the front page is controversial. I=E2=80=99ll wait until I see the new tex= t but I have a hard time imagining what it would look like that would fit www.php.net=E2=80=99s front page. --20cf3071cab055e6ba04fa78b87d--