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Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:47:12 +0200
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
Cc: Levi Morrison <levim@php.net>, Michael Wallner <mike@php.net>, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>, 
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Subject: Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:

> Personally I think that it would be counter-productive to remove this
> entry now, I think the best course of action would be improving the entry
> to remove the controversial parts (what you already mentioned doing it
> yourself), and as nobody argued against the intention of the post, I thin=
k
> it would be nice to start up an official blog where we can put up these
> kind of posts in the future.
>
>
>
> I think the very existence of this message is controversial in the sense
> that we don=E2=80=99t have anything similar to this message on www.php.ne=
t.  I
> think removing it and putting a clear removal message instead, with
> pointers to what phpng is makes the most sense.
>
> FWIW, I am arguing against the intention of the post in the sense that it
> uses www.php.net to =E2=80=98fight=E2=80=99 misinformation on news sites.=
  That can be
> done on Twitter, blogs, or comment sections.  As I think you pointed out,
> we never did it before, not when people wrote the =E2=80=98fractal of bad=
 design=E2=80=99
> and not when PHP was accused of being insecure.  In that latter case, whi=
ch
> was all the rage back in 2006, I used my own blog to fight this
> misconception, not www.php.net.
>
>
>
> Zeev
>

I agree that this doesn't belong to the frontpage, nor do we did ever have
stuff like this there.
But I also think that removing it would do more harm than good at this
point.
I also think that having a easier to understand channel and posts like this
to communicate the roadmap and development of the project would be a nice
thing to have (as long as we don't try to use the frontpage for that).
So I would suggest checking out the updated version from Levi, and discuss
if it still has any controversial stuff.

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Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs
@Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu

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