Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74591 php.webmaster:19025 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 38609 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 16:15:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 16:15:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.52 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.52 mail-qg0-f52.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.52] ([209.85.192.52:48845] helo=mail-qg0-f52.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id C9/C6-02991-48B06835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 12:15:01 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f52.google.com with SMTP id a108so18725955qge.11 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+mzCyERJKs6H1IvE/HNKL2zlqMJDe1WG8HiXSB/72qU=; b=ZezJTDMRV2jrVZ1BTe6KbjWMas6b82QwxlFo7NRLjdshCt/evvJtszYyLrUPmiLRGa dSbjSlHGN2p+xvEmWd7LF1LUdP1hchqR2q56N+NutVdVE328OXZD/Z0qmoBkKbBPMrH/ Vv9/eZzNDKeyWF4cfKz8HtQvWUsmgp2dxAFQF3h2lZlL3j8+iHR8d2vtslnmZKVuRRBE 9XB6E378WUJLDqnLyVNHi/vmxAPEF7jEYw7+fYrAjxvg2yVSw7IutisXDTj3eyaUAAqh Ukr26pTceR7ofcqPlL7wOISkgKFVfDmd1nOp2O3rPIWRzOOflTFHClzXlnp8pYEYxsX6 mY3g== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.161.10 with SMTP id p10mr1062244qax.12.1401293697607; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.17.77 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2014 09:14:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <998f4156545f1b2fe88c0f1e64b94015@mail.gmail.com> <5777562771914574713@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 18:14:57 +0200 Message-ID: To: Levi Morrison Cc: Zeev Suraski , Michael Wallner , Andi Gutmans , PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01536b721289f604fa781d88 Subject: Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --089e01536b721289f604fa781d88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 6:00 PM, Levi Morrison wrote: > > I think that regardless of how we phrase it, it does not belong on > > www.php.net at this time[...] > > > > Deviating from that line requires a strong majority if not consensus, > > which is clearly not there at this point. It should be removed until > > such consensus is reached, if at all. > > That is all just your opinion. Maybe others share it; I don't know. > Where does it say we need to reach a consensus on what we put on our > homepage? > changing the status quo always requires consensus imo. if we want to start using our frontpage for future "blog" entries, then I agree that we would need consensus/support from the other contributors first. if nothing else release announcements will be less visible on the frontpage, and that can be an undesired side-effect for the qa releases, which already have too little exposure/feedback. > > I mean no disrespect here, but if we need to vote on this then we have > much bigger issues than this news entry. > I would be curious why do you think that. I mean if I understand you correctly, you are saying that it is a bad thing if somebody (or a small group of people) can't change our current "policy" on the frontpage posts. Personally I think that it would be counter-productive to remove this entry now, I think the best course of action would be improving the entry to remove the controversial parts (what you already mentioned doing it yourself), and as nobody argued against the intention of the post, I think it would be nice to start up an official blog where we can put up these kind of posts in the future. I would prefer either using some 3rd party blogging platform with our own domain name (like wordpress.com, I'm fairly sure we could get a free account there), or using a static blogging engine like octopress which makes the maintenance cost near-zero. --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --089e01536b721289f604fa781d88--