Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74588 php.webmaster:19022 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 31172 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 15:34:44 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 15:34:44 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=morrison.levi@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=morrison.levi@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.219.45 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: morrison.levi@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.219.45 mail-oa0-f45.google.com Received: from [209.85.219.45] ([209.85.219.45:38029] helo=mail-oa0-f45.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 96/65-02991-31206835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 11:34:44 -0400 Received: by mail-oa0-f45.google.com with SMTP id l6so11386081oag.32 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=up6oOtwpeQDZJ7O4Wl/8E2kIS38XWTc4WbE+0T5Hv8Y=; b=iExyZ2NbPHFhD/MbXYLSav6g2HeYkpmLXKDf9nTezWkoh72QldleOfx105ltU2OJdj zRK8QQTdiwG8wk0bU+dp7HCh4gWAIXRix9yMtCZttqWf8nfDpV/o6QoSmMrWU62MBFCW u1y+Lms6idtfBOmPw+/3SUDO/uLfnKDS3H/0J8iWEKUy/FtY7jXlBzl5I+ly8gekZGog A+Q5ClvVax2n4L0KaqN0XcLZqC8qKNY3BElceIHr+GbsjvL+XCnnhG505U9uqHqEEQ20 3eBvHGgmAaM/1UX0r2G55oqxnnkCssP0Y8TUqKAaIgVCT7G2590WaKDktaLZsehPLofQ 7ehw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.144.194 with SMTP id so2mr308069obb.31.1401291281508; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.76.77.100 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2014 08:34:41 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <998f4156545f1b2fe88c0f1e64b94015@mail.gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:34:41 -0600 Message-ID: To: Michael Wallner Cc: Zeev Suraski , Andi Gutmans , Ferenc Kovacs , PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: morrison.levi@gmail.com (Levi Morrison) Last night Joe, Hannes and a few others were talking about the misinformation out there about PHPNG how it would be nice if the PHP project as a whole conveyed more information about what is going on with our projects, sort of how we used to have a PHP Weekly. Basically, PHP internals developers could be more public to non-internals devs about what's going on; similarly the website team can be more public about changes going on there too. Overall it seemed like a good idea. So Joe wrote a post. He tried to help curb the misinformation out there about PHPNG including a JIT. At the same time he was trying to be more open and transparent to the community at large about PHPNG. He was also trying to be optimistic and encouraging. All of these things are *good things*; let's stop the flaming and raging and be constructive. I'm currently working on a revision with Joe and others that will hopefully retain the good parts of the news entry and trim out the controversial bits.