Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74580 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13201 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 14:34:31 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 14:34:31 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rowan.collins@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rowan.collins@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rowan.collins@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.82.43 mail-wg0-f43.google.com Received: from [74.125.82.43] ([74.125.82.43:35341] helo=mail-wg0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EF/91-02991-5F3F5835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 10:34:30 -0400 Received: by mail-wg0-f43.google.com with SMTP id l18so11000943wgh.26 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 07:34:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=e/MGzvKR2QM9yk1fTZDK+946veGv4Wp338wrud4oDGA=; b=innc6xLU9pq1js3nbYbjpnMdzeBM2Hf4x8A3B4EPxfQYotn5Nhhv6V+up0AOukN3gE 2I0xEJf0X12aQuzqag8rdh9LAmZ2K+BHyjN+VHusTx5t+/E3diHy4V1zh1t52rnl2CUp 6DPtlGREtqLaSWj7urO93U7PF26nM8iOaDuurKUWbxHmQnoIxvxaLr3EpdKOZphAPVUf /7Mtye9nmU+2ek/Qho99WMFyV5/rG6vfgraA6xYtq31Mrt9ZwotAAq3tE1wVRre/XPG0 kWVcGHOLJZhdpvLheBhepYYJ3TsgWKq/ub+xnojft0vrU08uLcbNiMoEUfFVUkaDNB6P wW7Q== X-Received: by 10.180.72.15 with SMTP id z15mr1474427wiu.46.1401287667008; Wed, 28 May 2014 07:34:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.139] ([62.189.198.114]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id p15sm13803104wiv.8.2014.05.28.07.34.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 28 May 2014 07:34:26 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5385F3EE.10605@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 15:34:22 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: internals@lists.php.net References: In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: rowan.collins@gmail.com (Rowan Collins) Ferenc Kovacs wrote (on 28/05/2014): > I'm mostly interested on the opinion of the core devs, but others also > welcome to reply. > I'm definitely in the category of "others", but I thought I'd try my hand at a replacement wording: > While rarely visible to users, there are many people working behind > the scenes to improve PHP, both to bring new features and to increase > performance. > > Recently, a project known internally as "phpng" has gained some > attention outside the normal channels; this is an experimental branch > of the codebase, initially authored by Dmitry Stogov, Xinchen Hui, and > Nikita Popov, which cleans up and alters some internal APIs to improve > performance, particularly in terms of memory usage. The hope is that a > change such as this may pave the way for further improvements in the > future, such as a "JIT" capable executor, but the current branch does > not include such a change. > > However, the branch does give a considerable performance gain in real > world applications, for example a 20% increase in throughput for a > typical Wordpress setup. It is possible that this branch, or something > like it, may form one part of the next major release of PHP (hence the > optimistic "Next Generation" label of the branch), and discussions are > continuing around what that release should look like and what > timescales will be involved in bringing it to production quality. I'm not sure whether or not it makes sense to include a link to the RFC, or a pointer to check the mailing list - if so, it should probably be stressed that the details are highly technical in nature, and require a certain prior knowledge of the engine. Just a thought, to move things forward. :) -- Rowan Collins [IMSoP]