Newsgroups: php.internals,php.webmaster Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74577 php.webmaster:19017 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 7795 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 14:25:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 14:25:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.173 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.173 mail-ve0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.173] ([209.85.128.173:56438] helo=mail-ve0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7E/70-02991-EC1F5835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 10:25:19 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f173.google.com with SMTP id pa12so12606385veb.18 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 07:25:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:references:in-reply-to:mime-version :thread-index:date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=0JnxU0wK8B1+qOPljctBR+wD5OiDYYICLQRdEr9rwRE=; b=TrmKLHEWVU303DVTey70c3JYELk//94eJfT5jaABsld9p48DpS3EY7yf1hT4mvJUUv ISQgtO+KiYeevQWU8HmHBQXUgpvRWufbETDTKkNddIwx9rrwSAfEVl2nxJEjSIIsRMAi L/vSK9dZMyb5ql0RFxhdK4PudNCmfYF1S/92Qjk47Hr2efCSv95zXV2MsHDqRNmR4yXl cpW4jxTQKYj6NsdTX9ZHN1kiN1mTfYHGrll51tuSAuf1tI5RwMeHCljTIyeIjZiXK1+Z sGoXwdXE39E8bsh5uX2eHc/cH3p1I1x1sgNXU1k91+fbwR0P1zhaPyu+0UAzaBWT5FD/ vqoA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQkrqeahdcvWLvVziApqB/CYTazfzL/I0qDOrToHpQquTPT87kj8g0lqWPB6YX+Tf1pcCVqWs/kyH3UBwttPv7SzAeGZxB+ecOrMv9y2soOlQz3HxDwvkJrKwF+skekcBwPoNUTG X-Received: by 10.52.138.14 with SMTP id qm14mr1868009vdb.49.1401287116430; Wed, 28 May 2014 07:25:16 -0700 (PDT) References: In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 14.0 Thread-Index: AQGmJDgvAkP0sKjJxzC2NytXAGOEhQKC9EkOm5SeIbA= Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 17:25:15 +0300 Message-ID: <998f4156545f1b2fe88c0f1e64b94015@mail.gmail.com> To: Andi Gutmans , Ferenc Kovacs Cc: PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: RE: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > Unfortunately it seems this has been picked up already by a lot of folks incl. I > just got a press inquiry on it. > While my instinct would say just remove it, I think it's not an option anymore. > I think we need to write something very short and sweet that has zero > opinion and only fact and post it instead. FWIW I still think your instinct is correct and it's very much an option to remove it. We can keep the URL and just have it read something like: "The news entry that was previously available here was mistakenly published on www.php.net; phpng is presently under discussion on internals@, and is not ready for consumption by most users. If you want to read more about the phpng patch you can do so at https://wiki.php.net/phpng or follow the internals@ discussion." Zeev