Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74543 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 22500 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 09:12:53 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 09:12:53 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mike.php.net@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mike.php.net@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.160.173 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.160.173 mail-yk0-f173.google.com Received: from [209.85.160.173] ([209.85.160.173:38834] helo=mail-yk0-f173.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/A5-15325-498A5835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 05:12:52 -0400 Received: by mail-yk0-f173.google.com with SMTP id 142so8094402ykq.18 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:12:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject :from:to:cc:content-type; bh=d5bIcTnIa1oT4M2AyeXBlXfsprqIhZ+TLknghlWwveA=; b=WpNYNaehl9xL17gft99TiGTU7g2glDux/g5qUqEZTJtaVK+91NZODKLcWjHo9i/C+h oLPlV4WPNMxrqMJDYvLD2KvVhVZQh0K1Wq+IhX1poF+YZvgWIszxXTPHYDkUuCdTfi1M ff1rOeZdAWFnG951acaqKCoYHLfdbz+8vwg7b1J0eifCAOKrPP6ahiNB6nTJAkbOnJdo IC8qPsTN6oHTW5/4q5CjR54wDutpkdup9CiC/9cjsYWPeiS/FIckHDtpGxM3PyA6YPaQ 5/T/0cvEu6RvfuM8ElXixoKyMNbCWXNP7qCKec6PVVAHhBzZarn9RqN+tPvVILw+6yv0 3n2Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.236.131.42 with SMTP id l30mr22451882yhi.130.1401268369002; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:12:49 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mike.php.net@gmail.com Received: by 10.170.191.69 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2014 02:12:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53859D38.9010503@sugarcrm.com> Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 11:12:48 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: 4rswPVyFzPHm7WzRipZ1-uLTrDo Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Stas Malyshev , PHP Internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: mike@php.net (Michael Wallner) On 28 May 2014 10:29, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 10:24 AM, Stas Malyshev wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> > Would like to know what do you guys think about the best step, I see the >> > following possible options: >> >> I wonder why I didn't see any discussion about it here. Did I miss it? >> If not, it would be a good idea next time to announce such things >> upfront and solicit feedback. Of course, usually php.net news do not >> require that, but usually they also are much more routine than >> announcing a big rewrite of the engine in progress. >> > > there were no previous discussion on the list about it, it was a short > discussion on irc (#php.pecl), but originally it was meant to be a personal > blogpost, so there is a chance that not every participant understood that > it would end up on the frontpage. > I agree that statements like this should be written more carefully and > making sure that it comforms with the opinion of the majority of the people > behind the project. It should be removed if nobody is able to reword it in an objective and professional style. I'd really refrain from using words or phrases like "kittens", "necessitated the birth", "collaboration it is inspiring" and "grounded, honest and open" -- but maybe it's just the aggregation of all of it. -- Regards, Mike