Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74541 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 13287 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 08:29:08 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 08:29:08 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=petercowburn@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=petercowburn@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.41 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: petercowburn@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.41 mail-qg0-f41.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.41] ([209.85.192.41:33967] helo=mail-qg0-f41.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 78/D3-15325-25E95835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 04:29:07 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f41.google.com with SMTP id j5so16884782qga.0 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=2l4RYBWtTP4q7fS5Hx+ttYUpwZ7wzuEQejrb22Bfhao=; b=QT518VB46R8AcffafhqdvMqeWcN09ft5aD833jWcOS3E2p+8qkup52dSW9eCY5BNFK Nm3rhkUfgOtK482LTFyTNLFcqIEfvpLLoq1Sq3x22LroAwNELWRTF45mhRbdr80tJbZz mumwwB6XzeE1EhJm1h0BUFnXMzIp1lNYZzDUN8srQ3Ji5T5KEKivrPAS7LZZxjkio+w3 lI19urPc753aeJJQOG7S2qiqtDGHdRoVZj8qjjFBONNZ+BO5tNhb7bRFgBGNrcj709ZF WXCl6zENdat9W31eqAD2VHShEGKKOTPdHUSo5HDA2f54CXzX3hgi8FZSWQ4D7EpWoCzz el9g== X-Received: by 10.224.55.83 with SMTP id t19mr52421350qag.42.1401265744409; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:29:04 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.96.173.99 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:28:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 09:28:24 +0100 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5daf78ee78fc04fa719a19 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: petercowburn@gmail.com (Peter Cowburn) --047d7b5daf78ee78fc04fa719a19 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi, I'm only a lowly docs and phpweb guy, but here are my two pennies. On 28 May 2014 08:56, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > Joe made a post about the introduction on phpng, what it is, and what it > isn't. > Some people (myself included) didn't liked that post for various reasons > (some says it is opiniated, some doesn't like the tone and the wording, > others feel that it is too early to made official announcement about > phpng). > There were a couple of iteration on improving the text, but it is still n= ot > up to our standards imo: > > http://git.php.net/?p=3Dweb/php.git;a=3Dhistory;f=3Darchive/entries/2014-= 05-27-1.xml > ; > It is already on hackernews and reddit, so while some people suggested, I > think it would be a bad move to just remove it. > And it is being picked up by international news websites. > Would like to know what do you guys think about the best step, I see the > following possible options: > > - keep it as is > Nope. But remember, any change will be being tracked and could in and of itself become something to talk about if we start "fixing" our homepage news articles after-the-fact. That said, I think change would be good. > - remove it > It's far too late for that. The internet already knows it exists. > - rewrite it to be more formal and factual(only talk about what it is > atm. not what it could be in the future). > More formal, more factual, would be good. I also feel it's missing a huge chunk of context. The average php.net homepage reader, and more importantly the readers of the places picking this up as news, would benefit from a wider perspective of the events leading up to this publication. > - create a post explaining that this post is controversional among the > core-devs, so it is reflects more of the authors opinion than the > projects > official view on the topic. > This could be part of an amendment (or just the git commit message). > > I'm mostly interested on the opinion of the core devs, but others also > welcome to reply. > -- > Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs > @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu > --047d7b5daf78ee78fc04fa719a19--