Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74539 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 10061 invoked from network); 28 May 2014 08:19:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 28 May 2014 08:19:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.48 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.48 mail-qg0-f48.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.48] ([209.85.192.48:62369] helo=mail-qg0-f48.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F2/23-15325-81C95835 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 04:19:37 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f48.google.com with SMTP id i50so16623392qgf.7 for ; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:19:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=XWRDy+9POqMc4g7tzmaGoFh+catckeWyoJeUQJZD24I=; b=fs6ud9/KOoIY4oOUoPCpvGeriQDcnpqoic1+h3QToDlvy4uVRw7Z4gFickopQSPUuX 0hTjUCYXBSh90u56CrH9rscHqAfpR0mMbs00dSHrS7C9P/a88QQMNaLEKVZm0xSsVpzN Aocg4IZkSqnld5+ctQlhHWEoW/DK8pHRr5hNQLEOuQOzFFCIGcVB/YepkQh2NZiaWD87 Oe7Q7bwoy5JCE5Lit1puCdV88MeM8vejdP8V8IPAr6nl52ofPb3GxNYDjBL4J6ZqvZGA xEoCdt4YgvhuJNYG2Am5BCiJuSdunFhp3mdVqcnfXYYgMxtD2FXmEgXKpJ9i2m/QODgt OUZQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.29.76 with SMTP id p12mr38678198qac.18.1401265174603; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:19:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.47.231 with HTTP; Wed, 28 May 2014 01:19:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 May 2014 10:19:34 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: PHP Internals , php-webmaster Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] about the latest frontpage entry From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > Hi, > > Joe made a post about the introduction on phpng, what it is, and what it > isn't. > Some people (myself included) didn't liked that post for various reasons > (some says it is opiniated, some doesn't like the tone and the wording, > others feel that it is too early to made official announcement about phpng). > There were a couple of iteration on improving the text, but it is still not > up to our standards imo: > http://git.php.net/?p=web/php.git;a=history;f=archive/entries/2014-05-27-1.xml > ; > It is already on hackernews and reddit, so while some people suggested, I > think it would be a bad move to just remove it. > > Would like to know what do you guys think about the best step, I see the > following possible options: > > - keep it as is > - remove it > - rewrite it to be more formal and factual(only talk about what it is > atm. not what it could be in the future). > - create a post explaining that this post is controversional among the > core-devs, so it is reflects more of the authors opinion than the projects > official view on the topic. > > I'm mostly interested on the opinion of the core devs, but others also > welcome to reply. It should be removed, as soon as possible. The reasoning is rather simple: - it does not remotely represent all developers opinion - wrong fact about JIT - since when do we post work in progress on the frontpage? Not even ready to be proposed as RFC We did not even did a post about a critical thing like heartbleed, as it could have helped a lot of our users, even if not directly related to php, there is absolutely no reason to transform www.php.net home is some kind of personal blog. planet-php exists for that. Whoever committed that, please remove it, now. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org