Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74412 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 92399 invoked from network); 21 May 2014 13:52:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2014 13:52:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 198.187.29.240 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 198.187.29.240 imap2-1.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [198.187.29.240] ([198.187.29.240:46648] helo=imap2-1.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 10/89-24198-3BFAC735 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 09:52:51 -0400 Received: from [192.168.0.200] (unknown [90.203.28.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 63B715A007E; Wed, 21 May 2014 09:52:45 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) In-Reply-To: <9EBA95A7-B9F7-41F0-AE2B-283260753E5A@googlemail.com> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 14:52:41 +0100 Cc: Nicolai Scheer , PHP Internals Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: References: <6048BA05-CC13-46DD-8439-9CB4EE29078B@ajf.me> <9EBA95A7-B9F7-41F0-AE2B-283260753E5A@googlemail.com> To: Kevin Ingwersen X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] encode php scripts with opcache compatibility From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) On 21 May 2014, at 14:47, Kevin Ingwersen = wrote: > There are decent obfuscators? =85 have not seen any. > And then, obfuscated code can be reversed still, whilst =84sort of=93 = compiled code is far harder to reverse engeneer. For languages which don=92t compile down to machine code, like PHP, C#, = Java, JavaScript, Python, Perl or Ruby, obfuscation and (if it doesn=92t = use byte code) minification is really the best you can get. Such = languages necessarily cannot be compiled down to the metal, so if you = really don=92t want anyone to read your code, I=92m not sure there=92s = anything you can do. Then again, even x86 machine code can be = decompiled. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/