Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74403 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60219 invoked from network); 21 May 2014 06:23:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2014 06:23:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.182 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.182 mail-qc0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.182] ([209.85.216.182:35645] helo=mail-qc0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 5F/25-24198-A464C735 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 02:23:08 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f182.google.com with SMTP id e16so2463439qcx.13 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 23:23:03 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=xfQsbmNFjLlxsycpMh1JvmPVGmbZ+0iRh/yg8JIXxCU=; b=lmoBQ9J5sYPjx1Y/A4FjHdr0AhsDCiGqZ2mp6LokHgvWaNF4yEwetNHz5xsHhPjo+t QSp+eXWY/jIw/aBoZ/9jKiNrczGdPEOun4v8GRFAHToSwZlbmvMHOP8n+0MmFHzKymDE oCY+Du3nFRydVnHdRCkBWQIDJmjdq3JSe2oe73GVqyNFO6PZP+PUFelk4hASHA3GuSno BlkEbQoa7ARKvyUrij3nPRfNHnIFCn9txHtHPMcQJiKwmRmxQZotc5QNVsyuZwR+mEX5 1mRW1K0tsGkAQmFn4jG80T4QPTcCXn6KZo72528FlEgDgRzOl0nm2lZ0n1Y7e+tc8Bto PikA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.129.135 with SMTP id o7mr64395590qas.18.1400653383901; Tue, 20 May 2014 23:23:03 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.47.231 with HTTP; Tue, 20 May 2014 23:23:03 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <266288285382887601@unknownmsgid> References: <537BC669.2030704@sugarcrm.com> <20140520230249.E326826082D@dd15934.kasserver.com> <266288285382887601@unknownmsgid> Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 08:23:03 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Yasuo Ohgaki , "mails@thomasbley.de" , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: 64bit and phpng, votes and plans From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:18 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > On the flip side, I've come across countless companies (and > developers) who care about performance. Actually it's rare to find > ones that don't. Right. And even more companies I meet care about clean APIs, stable releases, BC, clean and safe code, documentation (internals APIs too), etc. much more than performance as it costs them much more than adding hardware from a development and update processes point of view. Right now, you care only about performance, raw performance, this is good but it is by far not only what companies and users look for. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org