Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74401 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 58276 invoked from network); 21 May 2014 06:18:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 May 2014 06:18:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.182 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.182 mail-ve0-f182.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.182] ([209.85.128.182:40695] helo=mail-ve0-f182.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B6/C4-24198-0254C735 for ; Wed, 21 May 2014 02:18:09 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f182.google.com with SMTP id sa20so1958799veb.27 for ; Tue, 20 May 2014 23:18:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type:content-transfer-encoding; bh=oAHqXpAHqwrlsNWVW0BfxijUc52aHiazc1IwsQbu0GI=; b=RY1PcIns9MaBt33RiExImNMqrJ8N6bNI1nbsS1bPAqEcfUJ6MN+Je5TPVyqlDRGK34 J1B67qNwtr+azwHAVtNWzUNF1cqJZflXMnVzYJmwkMu9pZqBsMgEUZOF1XsQDDKNMhro IDJs9PDb5fOc9xleKP9Sxz7tENWIVZZCife1mCOTDOMSMy25zZ3qbXUEQMNvoYBWK5iu r3qVe7220pt2MKPWlepWUPwfAb28D7TAF3uGcNAnFmRqszcppfTGAguY9FNB1DfWSubp OPw2vJ2aaeZ430pm80BehWsTrmLcnjZmJMepUC9N97XclZYvF1dTSjmcXKekXauFm9gP Ap2Q== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQm9rGHQrMzE1JNfD4MHvk/C5nDRufVbRW+IW+fMpRPknjmhvkUF3DvHUDg/5HYYGuAcr04NHRRrqGhzsm7y5jR84d8l8ojOJ5Ii9L+owbOlQrunv1b/QrlcpPvFXutuqU7AdUcd X-Received: by 10.221.44.73 with SMTP id uf9mr8106807vcb.9.1400653085863; Tue, 20 May 2014 23:18:05 -0700 (PDT) References: <537BC669.2030704@sugarcrm.com> <20140520230249.E326826082D@dd15934.kasserver.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 May 2014 09:18:06 +0300 Message-ID: <266288285382887601@unknownmsgid> To: Yasuo Ohgaki Cc: "mails@thomasbley.de" , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: 64bit and phpng, votes and plans From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) > On 21 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 08:58, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: > > Hi Thomas, > >> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 8:02 AM, wrote: >> >> I know a lot of companies that switched (or plan to switch) to 5.5 only >> because of better performance. > > > I know such companies, too. Company does not care much what > language is used for there application. > FWIW, I've never come across companies who cared about 64-bit anything, except for integer sizes. Now array sizes, string offsets or integer array offsets. Even those who care about 64-bit binaries typically do it due to being misinformed that it's somehow help them, when in reality it'll give them nothing but reduced performance and increased memory footprint. On the flip side, I've come across countless companies (and developers) who care about performance. Actually it's rare to find ones that don't. Zeev