Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74368 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93941 invoked from network); 19 May 2014 17:03:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 May 2014 17:03:34 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.49 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.49 mail-qg0-f49.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.49] ([209.85.192.49:65264] helo=mail-qg0-f49.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/B1-15420-5693A735 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 13:03:34 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f49.google.com with SMTP id a108so9099200qge.36 for ; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:03:30 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=soySAA4XNuwHNENeyLCu4BJy57JJSSXTbaZ6mbjPP50=; b=JRwqkOcwr8hbcv4UW9Tw4EGer57nIunpk1qnzKyIRRE7SJ429laxdhoCZ+VnFWb4E2 TGKi7LXvnEf2GICvednwQdW+ciqVnXloanfSYJajB1Tj7X/oo8zAgy2NfPILtnnS+cGz SOD7FF1nICJrf2SV9hQMG9leNf2tZTHraytyut4Q5gOmeG4DGib6yAFR/abU/l0fUgFO POpMxXpU6YhZU+YQESOiNMJeAVPl+DkC4elpcoLJtuknAV7zHTCrQHkO5kqnxVEGpLmA ssUB5ycQSwCQ/ZbwH4szH/cU9FQr4Es6cMQmjC66E/6kd5p5JVmUeJMO2cpDghyvOWwW Z9qg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.13.72 with SMTP id b8mr37057605qaa.4.1400518999991; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:03:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.47.231 with HTTP; Mon, 19 May 2014 10:03:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <537A3756.4060900@lerdorf.com> References: <53788337.9090006@lerdorf.com> <53789AD9.40109@lerdorf.com> <537A35D9.50807@lerdorf.com> <537A3756.4060900@lerdorf.com> Date: Mon, 19 May 2014 19:03:19 +0200 Message-ID: To: Rasmus Lerdorf Cc: Nikita Popov , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Rethinking 64bit sizes and PHP-NG From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 6:54 PM, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote: > Ok, then please update the RFC with what you see as the way forward, > including adding actual memory impacts to it and restart the vote when > the RFC is ready. Asking us, after months of discussions, work, tests, publications, etc. to do change that could be done post acceptation easily, as it is always the case for any change affecting more than a couple of LoC. And with which guarantee? So far none, even the contrary, all possible ways are used too block this RFC, while we keep trying to find compromises and keep helping phpng moving forward in the meantime. I hope you can understand that I have hard time to justify more efforts on this patch at this stage, we are not an endless free resource. At some point trust, compromise and common sense must be followed. And we are at this point here. We said numerous time on this list and IRC what are the goals and what are the possibilities of improving both the 64bit patch and phpng in the coming months/years. Let end this unproductive debate and let us back to code, for the good of PHP. Cheers, -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org