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Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 22:01:22 +0300
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To: Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@lerdorf.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Rethinking 64bit sizes and PHP-NG
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

> On 18 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 14:35, Rasmus Lerdorf <rasmus@ler=
dorf.com> wrote:
>
> You keep talking about side effects of the patch. It is these side
> effects that we have a problem with. We need a version of the patch that
> doesn't have all these undesired side effects.
>
> You put the patch as it stands up for a vote and it is this patch we
> have to vote on which is why I am voting no on it. It isn't some future
> version with some unknown number of side effects removed.

Well put.  In the strangeness of voting on an implementation RFC, I
don't see how it makes sense to talk about "side effects".  They're
the very essence of the patch and the reason it's being opposed.

If there's a better way to so it, let's see it.  The sensible thing to
do would be implementing it for phpng, seeing a *final* version of the
patch and it's consequences, and then making an informed decision.

Even without it, Nikita's proposal seems as a much better baseline
everyone can agree on.

Zeev