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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Building a better PHP together.
From: levim@php.net (Levi Morrison)

>> >> Here are some behaviors that are inappropriate:
>> >> - Asking members of the list to vote in a particular way
>> >
>> > There's actually nothing wrong with that.  I absolutely don't think
>> > this should become a rule or a guideline.
>>
>> I disagree. We should not have rallying cries on the list asking
>> people with no connection or opinion on something to vote a certain
>> way. That is unacceptable behaviour.
>
> It's a lot better to rally for your cause out in the open than in
> private discussions in the back of IRC. It's a lot more transparent, at
> least to see where people stand.

I agree that rallying your cause on list is okay, it just needs to be
appropriate. Let me provide an example of something that I think is
appropriate:

"I will be voting yes/no on ... because ... and encourage everyone to
vote with this in mind"

I think the heated and unhelpful debate on the "A call for help
(urgent)" is evidence enough to validate the stance of not asking
members to vote in a particular way.