Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74311 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 85974 invoked from network); 17 May 2014 20:47:10 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2014 20:47:10 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.177 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.177 mail-ve0-f177.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.177] ([209.85.128.177:47525] helo=mail-ve0-f177.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AD/07-53190-DCAC7735 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 16:47:09 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f177.google.com with SMTP id db11so4699747veb.36 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=YdGzNxZYS8kv7MFJSYG4CH63XXqudPhmAE1wmW1cD84=; b=COU5e2svACtiCL+nuOn80bZ7v+h7Jm1A+wAxGWDBefbfMoyVVK4Ue47M1xHiNb7Tqg yLG1Oe//ZqLUdfiuKzJu953CWOYEqzSBFt3qR0D+EwEfsFxFR1h7aURwaAsQ04OZnjbr vgTlq/owl+KeH6FplzeVzNeqefQwOzB1heXqLOKzaBRzAZs7P08qYt8dT1Hehk5Nd7U4 i6C/PpBlt0d1keOoLdFDxO5564Kq77OU6EjlqTQC5zGJxqeaV009VziNdFtmzqNVAyte qKGqR9NcgxeSgxxAHfnxiBPxntxrw7tVKEk1x3pPakcmwBmXNm6l+m0BB6WJz6us+0jz Shcw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQniKFBAHy6tFgXK6G6zul7IJZi5hcTMiIGEqvne1Tm3Z2C9pgPouOb9dEC0ILCcSsHj/v7S1wbS8ZhHxirh1efdt9mNF3kaOM6DQfGln1FlXyiOXcriMaQp1jRsEFkhj9MTNB+L MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.58.201.5 with SMTP id jw5mr21226194vec.6.1400359625801; Sat, 17 May 2014 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.111.71 with HTTP; Sat, 17 May 2014 13:47:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <4818449979808f1f4d0fcdc1409d9e04@mail.gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 May 2014 00:47:05 +0400 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Andrea Faulds , Zeev Suraski , PHP internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6aea20dd69704f99ea2da Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Proposal to increase the required majority for all RFCs From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) --047d7bd6aea20dd69704f99ea2da Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 All developers make mistakes and they need to be verified by experts. In most cases this process must lead not to rejection but to a better solution. Thanks. Dmitry. On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 12:42 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:36 PM, Dmitry Stogov wrote: > > I think that the serious core changes require technical expertise before > > voting (like Nikita made). > > And the results of such expertise should be published in additional to > RFC > > on the same page. > > So basically, based on what you say, many if not all new features in > 5.4 or 5.5 would have been rejected per se because they were done by > new developers. > > Sorry, I rather prefer to keep things like they are and improve/solve > confusing wording instead of going back to the benevolent dictators > time. > > > -- > Pierre > > @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org > --047d7bd6aea20dd69704f99ea2da--