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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 22:35:21 +0200
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Building a better PHP together.
From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs)

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On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 10:11 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:

> > Here are some behaviors that are inappropriate:
> >  - Asking members of the list to vote in a particular way
>
> There's actually nothing wrong with that.  I absolutely don't think this
> should become a rule or a guideline.
>
> >  - Dominating a mailing list discussion
>
> Apologies for that, but many people subscribed with @php.net addresses ar=
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> currently blocked from internals@ and consequently from the discussion du=
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> to some bug.  I suspect it would have looked a lot different otherwise.
>
> Zeev
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>
I think it is ok to rally people for voting or making them aware that
something will go through which they probably don't want to, and also ok to
reconsider based and giving them reasons.
But I think that prominent people like you should refrain from asking
people to vote no while providing only generic/blanket statments ("morally
wrong", etc.) because you are in a position where some people will just
blindly follow what you say, and we should vote purely on the base on the
technical merit of the proposed rfc, and not based on which sides has the
more prominent people supporting it.
Ofc. I'm not saying that the current voting RFC is perfect (far from it),
but it would be nice if we could solve that outside of an in-progress vote.
And you are also right, that currently there is some problem with
lists.php.net which causes that people subscribed with their
@php.netaddress won't get their emails from the lists.

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