Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74278 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 24157 invoked from network); 17 May 2014 14:33:00 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 May 2014 14:33:00 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=ajf@ajf.me; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=ajf@ajf.me; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain ajf.me designates 192.64.116.200 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: ajf@ajf.me X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.64.116.200 imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com Received: from [192.64.116.200] ([192.64.116.200:44359] helo=imap1-2.ox.privateemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DD/29-35141-A1377735 for ; Sat, 17 May 2014 10:32:58 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id D23DB20007E; Sat, 17 May 2014 10:32:55 -0400 (EDT) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at imap1.ox.registrar-servers.com Received: from mail.privateemail.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (imap1.ox.privateemail.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id YAKnmUTGTMLJ; Sat, 17 May 2014 10:32:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [192.168.0.200] (unknown [90.203.28.11]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mail.privateemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 3BEA320006B; Sat, 17 May 2014 10:32:53 -0400 (EDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_C6D00B37-C9E8-42B9-8D4F-50C4AC3AAFA8" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.2\)) In-Reply-To: <3939936079205827190@unknownmsgid> Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 15:32:50 +0100 Cc: PHP internals Message-ID: <2422EE67-5206-4A27-9175-3C738A9128C9@ajf.me> References: <3939936079205827190@unknownmsgid> To: Zeev Suraski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] A call for help (urgent) From: ajf@ajf.me (Andrea Faulds) --Apple-Mail=_C6D00B37-C9E8-42B9-8D4F-50C4AC3AAFA8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 On 17 May 2014, at 11:53, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Please, please - vote No on = https://wiki.php.net/rfc/size_t_and_int64_next#vote Everyone, please vote yes. The No side is unlikely to lose, due to the = 2/3 majority required. The Yes side does need a lot of help to win, = though. Remember, every no vote requires 2 yes votes to counteract it. > We're in an unprecedented situation where almost all of the code > contributors to the engine are against a patch that is being forced on > them for no reason, negates months of hard work performed to get us > phpng, and is somehow enjoying a majority (almost exclusively from > people who are not engine contributors). It negates months of hard work performed behind closed doors in secret = (phpng), compared to lots of hard work done in the open (64-bit patch). > I urge everyone with a right to vote (and only those, as per > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting) to vote no, and even those who voted > yes to revert their votes to no. No way. Let=92s use the right types for the job. =91int=92 and =91long=92 = should never be used for sizes of data structures. It=92s not as if 64-bit will kill phpng, it=92ll just delay it. -- Andrea Faulds http://ajf.me/ --Apple-Mail=_C6D00B37-C9E8-42B9-8D4F-50C4AC3AAFA8--