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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:02:50 +0200
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To: Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com>
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	Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>, PHP internals <internals@lists.php.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] 64 bit platform improvements for string
 length and integer
From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye)

On Sat, May 17, 2014 at 1:15 PM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
> For the benefit of everyone, this is all from January.  Dmitry's,
> Stas's and Nikita's positions in the actual patch in question can be
> found on this thread.

Stas position is not settled.

And in the meantime, from somewhere after January until last week, you
guys worked on a patch privately and did not consider a single second
that it could be a good thing for PHP to inform other about your work,
in progress or not. The memory increase is minimal against 5.6 (almost
at the measure error margin) and we do not have any number against
phpng, and won't be for months, until the actual re-factoring and
improvements are done. So excuse me Zeev, but this is not my vision
for the PHP core, and will never be. We, even as a team working under
a company umbrella, always follow community rules and try to cooperate
as much as we can, even working on things which are by no mean a
priority for us. I would love to see and hear the same from you.

Now. I am not saying that the changes in the core types will not
affect their respective size, it will, obviously (maybe less than
expected if we take a closer look at them). However the work on phpng
is in early stage, conceptual ideas have been proven good but
implementation is not yet finished and we have rooms for other
improvements. That makes the final impact of the 64bit patch, from 5.x
to 6.x, much less important as what it looks now.

Cheers,
-- 
Pierre

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