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Date: Sat, 17 May 2014 14:15:56 +0300
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To: Anatol Belski <anatol.php@belski.net>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] 64 bit platform improvements for string
 length and integer
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

For the benefit of everyone, this is all from January.  Dmitry's,
Stas's and Nikita's positions in the actual patch in question can be
found on this thread.

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> On 17 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 14:00, Anatol Belski <anatol.php@=
belski.net> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> from the previous episodes
>
> Dmitry
> http://grokbase.com/p/php/php-internals/141qd2k0ct/php-dev-rfc-64-bit-pla=
tform-improvements-for-string-length-and-integer
> "After some thoughts I think that usage of "size_t" is a good thing for
> the future support of X32 ABI."
>
> Stas
> http://grokbase.com/p/php/php-internals/1421be3ywy/php-dev-vote-64-bit-pl=
atform-improvements-for-string-length-and-integer
> " I can't speak for others but I can speak for myself in saying
> that these concerns are not just kicking the can down the road in hope
> that eventually this patch dies off. "
>
> Nikita:
> http://www.serverphorums.com/read.php?7,862033,862730#msg-862730
> "I fully support merging this into master, as the first change for PHP
> 6."
>
> That's pretty sad guys. Applause for playing me for a fool (well, probabl=
y
> not only me). On the other hand, I'd be honored to be as stupid as that
> old farts from ANSI who wrote the specs.
>
> Why can't you just work together instead of looking for a hair in the sou=
p?
>
> Best regards
>
> Anatol
>
>
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 21:48, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
>> On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:39 PM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> On 14/05/14 10:24, Dmitry Stogov wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Ah, you are on windows and lack 64-bit IS_LONG.
>>>> This is the part of the patch that should be accepted.
>>>> I mentioned it on original email.
>>> Not used windows for a number of years. 64 bit builds on Linux ...
>>
>>
>> then you already have 64-bit long, or do I miss something?
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The "bad" thing that this patch did, it changed all C data structures
>>> to
>>>> use 64-bit string lengths and it means that each such data sructure
>>>> would take more memory. Even zend_op becames bigger and as it's used
>>>> for VM byte-code representation you may just multiply the difference
>>>> to number of opcodes in application (that might be millions).
>>> Actually I do agree that this may not be ideal ...
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, phpng don't support firebird yet and it's not in our
>>>
>>>> priority list.
>>> Then there is no way that I can get involved at the present time :)
>>
>>
>> may be help in porting ext/interbase and ext/pdo_firebird :)
>>
>> I really don't know a lot about Firebird and afraid even proper
>> configuration might take us significant time.
>>
>> Thanks. Dmitry.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
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