Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74248 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 78675 invoked from network); 16 May 2014 05:30:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 May 2014 05:30:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.181 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.181 mail-qc0-f181.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.181] ([209.85.216.181:43336] helo=mail-qc0-f181.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0B/53-58167-A62A5735 for ; Fri, 16 May 2014 01:30:19 -0400 Received: by mail-qc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id m20so3462346qcx.40 for ; Thu, 15 May 2014 22:30:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rVTnwHecKhG6XODExWvE1hucLGTYFe75nYgxCh9hT2I=; b=OAFJCxr6kc1gnnKd5Zc+Gfk1i0OoiA4/HTqWwgedXek/aXxVD5v5Moo2EXCjniwoRV 3ignGa24g3z1m8//BxNxphOzOo9SMvGPHTLPSXNoHnj6aF8BTKmmz/8PMDg2VMy6uEk6 oE1rNfYSDSXI3Jx+0CclgNmMlExXeA8EWbydO9X73LIHmp7DkKVuDOQtQrVXYS2YJL2l TvtJ55Pg59x07LoNiZibasvLjLCRqCJ773txGbY+pKW0koJAdC+f6mqbIkY0La7Hoa86 wu7IOVm8lOIqBQ6IFLOgzlQfzOq6dWy9HdSCtGvPJgrgKkURLRZdxxsdGN79oub0tNvT gU7Q== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.101.99 with SMTP id t90mr9484428qge.115.1400218215608; Thu, 15 May 2014 22:30:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.47.231 with HTTP; Thu, 15 May 2014 22:30:15 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <5375A15A.5020104@phpdoc.de> References: <537539AC.8080906@sugarcrm.com> <5375A15A.5020104@phpdoc.de> Date: Fri, 16 May 2014 07:30:15 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ulf Wendel Cc: PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] on memory usage with the 64bit patch, and interpretation of various numbers From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Fri, May 16, 2014 at 7:25 AM, Ulf Wendel wrote: > Assuming unified behaviour is the #1 goal, the lowest common denominator > could be used instead of the largest. The latter obviously has > undesired side effects. Nice rhetoric but sadly missing some of the key points: - for class/variables and other language keywords, we can keep what we have (see my other replies for the reasons) - we can always limit the maximum size of a storage (hash, zval, buffer, etc) at the implementation . we already do that . it still gives us the benefits of using a clean, safe and standard implementation (see other replies for a more detailed explanation about these points) - the lower common denominator, platforms wild is what we do with this patch -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org