Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74188 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 97115 invoked from network); 14 May 2014 10:11:05 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 May 2014 10:11:05 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tyra3l@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tyra3l@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.42 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tyra3l@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.42 mail-qg0-f42.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.42] ([209.85.192.42:35852] helo=mail-qg0-f42.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3F/73-15285-83143735 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 06:11:04 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f42.google.com with SMTP id q107so2419926qgd.15 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=osJTdxQxMFJmSUayDxMrrPHEVqzTvZPcgr3YQTs3oTo=; b=gw2LwgN1gLp1tKST+DOqvBmXOd+n/MJfj2cuRHUZfRky/hUc7cs/sA58tfTp26B530 lxOt/163gg3jTR4ofIYXGfvgNc9j0fcuUsEKSHF9ysNeQp9jIM7i6+N45onAXveQgNwx kamBInYRloNJmogdEtRSbgZlJfvW8d4FWXh/6cS/W3575yyiJA+gjnDK9LQSPpfhDb/P yd1Eu/0yAEM+LE3RCNbAQEIVjHsDxl5b9Wjhz3Ak0BPsvwy/v7oUoUMDx6QL8Nqyq6Hx a6ZRUBeU4D3O8b/uiaGJJKow6PN/E9ya20OAVDFk6TIfh3r+Wk/Jj5KWn96kXzbU0uaK 63tA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.14.79 with SMTP id f15mr1754472qaa.96.1400062261802; Wed, 14 May 2014 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.17.77 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 03:11:01 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <9EBA64F4-9A75-4DD1-9DB3-17F78B329BE7@ajf.me> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 12:11:01 +0200 Message-ID: To: Pierre Joye Cc: Andrea Faulds , Kris Craig , Zeev Suraski , Nikita Popov , PHP Internals Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc80fcc73d2804f959659e Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer From: tyra3l@gmail.com (Ferenc Kovacs) --047d7bdc80fcc73d2804f959659e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:54 AM, Pierre Joye wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Andrea Faulds wrote: > > > > On 14 May 2014, at 10:47, Kris Craig wrote: > > > >> Just a quick reminder, here's the document outlining the RFC voting > process: > >> > >> https://wiki.php.net/rfc/voting > > > > While I don=E2=80=99t really disagree with 2/3 here, going by that RFC,= isn=E2=80=99t > this a 50%+1 non-language change? > > There is no language change. as I mentioned there are some direct effect on userland (different wrapping of big numbers for example) which are ofc. intentional changes, but you yourself also argued that changes which doesn't have direct effect on userland should require 66% when it changes how the underlying engine behaves: http://grokbase.com/p/php/php-internals/13384w7z5c/php-dev-vote-integrating= -zend-optimizer-into-the-php-distribution http://grokbase.com/p/php/php-internals/1337w5353t/php-dev-vote-integrating= -zend-optimizer-into-the-php-distribution --=20 Ferenc Kov=C3=A1cs @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu --047d7bdc80fcc73d2804f959659e--