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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] 64 bit platform improvements for string
 length and integer
From: ulf.wendel@phpdoc.de (Ulf Wendel)

I don't quite get this discussion in parts.

There are two conflicting proposals: one is growing data structures, one
is shrinking them. Obviously they clash.

There could be a third idea clashing with either one. It may lurk
somewhere on Github already but we just have not discovered it. The
third one may be that good, it may render all previous work null. Such
is life. I do know very well what it means to invest massive amounts of
time in things that never materialize. Extremly frustrating.

However, when judging the proposals, one may want to focus on technical
aspects.

Ulf