Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74171 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 66806 invoked from network); 14 May 2014 08:49:52 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 May 2014 08:49:52 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.192.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.192.53 mail-qg0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.192.53] ([209.85.192.53:44810] helo=mail-qg0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/55-40033-F2E23735 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 04:49:51 -0400 Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id f51so2294109qge.12 for ; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:49:48 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=PfdSmcNU4cuceWdJyoyOyFl26F1yO4DVJxQEjfGHF9U=; b=LF7M/04sgzW19jWW3m6C48Puisiou5ImAwWszhIMt0A1gxsdH88CYhrsshGzVBJQQg ptXHLIf8vGXeuWiBAPZEl3TcuvRJZsL9nx7EdqXZqDmw4iSXuaERdvB8JaOH5Uk4pFg7 gIpIrR8KZ7vBrQz4uyDlD34hNmUj6fcZP65D17VkC3JnBmMkpNluA8gHmm94SYCOok/M E3pRXjIoAfre1sdbBG0nkLjL2gY9qQQeIyhJD6VOvs4cX9X7ARolVAtiVCXNEEaOLFUS YDeA3JpRSf38KL/PDIIk9q6bC9/o1rzqoZjmi2uIJvsy2co0u7OUc+U52YS3HPOWxQWv zzYg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.49.76 with SMTP id p70mr3528758qga.86.1400057388333; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:49:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.47.231 with HTTP; Wed, 14 May 2014 01:49:48 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <53732673.3080106@lsces.co.uk> <53732BC8.30707@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 14 May 2014 10:49:48 +0200 Message-ID: To: Ferenc Kovacs Cc: Lester Caine , PHP internals Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [VOTE] [RFC] 64 bit platform improvements for string length and integer From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:46 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: > On Wed, May 14, 2014 at 10:39 AM, Lester Caine wrote: > >> On 14/05/14 09:22, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: >> >>> Hopefully there is no plan to backport this to the PHP5 builds? >>> >>> both the phpng and the size_t rfcs are targetting the next major >>> version, none of them are accepted yet, both of those would/will be >>> suitable for 'home users'. >>> buth these are all public information, stated in the RFCs and discussed >>> on internals@ which you seems to be subscribed on based on your replies >>> to the list, so I'm not sure where the confusion comes from. >>> >> >> Since original discussions were being targeted against PHP5 picking out >> where discussions have moved on is not easily obvious. I seem to recall >> this was originally targeted against PHP5? >> >> Have we reached a point where PHP5 has been 'frozen' and so PHPNext is the >> more detailed target today? >> >> > I guess you are referring to the previous rfc of the size_t, which was > targetting 5.6 and failed? > https://wiki.php.net/rfc/size_t_and_int64 > many of the no voters mentioned that they would support the rfc but not in > a minor version hence the authors accepted and now tried to get in into the > next major, and here we are atm. Excactly. And we would not have done it if we knew that Zend was working on a total rewamp. We would have rather focused on getting phpng done faster, from a usability, design point of view, while adding the necessary steps for a safe, clean and actual 64bit support. But we did not know, nobody knew it until last week. But now we are asked to trash months of work, openness and tests. Sorry, no. -- Pierre @pierrejoye | http://www.libgd.org