Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74076 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37350 invoked from network); 9 May 2014 01:01:22 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 9 May 2014 01:01:22 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=hannes.magnusson@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.170 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.170 mail-lb0-f170.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.170] ([209.85.217.170:36846] helo=mail-lb0-f170.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id ED/B8-15882-0E82C635 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 21:01:21 -0400 Received: by mail-lb0-f170.google.com with SMTP id w7so4725464lbi.15 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=rjNvjAyzYeEce81oLLvtTRtGXQ/ygXdhHlZg/zvsfiM=; b=ptigPtKKKWFbhJ7sY8jo9fKVm9AjSDBNq/a+M9ZvxThZCZAW50e5C5XoQCzTvMbmQL k1vYqE31GZm8gqTcxOOtSQEJmQAuI2uivYzukMw86zSh2gMcXCZbbvCCr8bNq+gV9fWf 4lTKImGMELU0ZPHn4xz/Rq/I9m5sU5PND57L3R+kbM1fWJfnarEeDHA7r5SXFQsCL4Rz fSNJ0q1qZ9cZiVR3BqMb77sOY432IIkmTwz7JKSaQTPnVaUN81X2Z7cPPdZzjyDy++vE lnxMUXKcaWueNfubDtv8kQhptVAh6l3drVFy2hWBoY+6+nz1Pn9eH/GcouMj83CrizDH 4vdg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.143.99 with SMTP id sd3mr8298548lbb.11.1399597277668; Thu, 08 May 2014 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.114.233.197 with HTTP; Thu, 8 May 2014 18:01:17 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> <578A5A21-A820-42AD-A218-FB8049F63B82@zend.com> <4023102707179619765@unknownmsgid> <7EA5660E-B264-4332-AE06-9BB4610050AB@zend.com> <-1685780700287010055@unknownmsgid> <7B1422B2-8D2C-47AF-BEB6-1C6DF9BB043D@ajf.me> <4486063930468675024@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 18:01:17 -0700 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Andrea Faulds , Ferenc Kovacs , Andi Gutmans , Sebastian Bergmann , PHP Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: hannes.magnusson@gmail.com (Hannes Magnusson) On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >> Could you spend a day or two on that please? > > I think it makes sense if & when we go with FastCGI as the default > implementation for Apache. It's premature at this point. > >> That can even be part of 5.6 and will be one of the major things we can >> announce. > > I think this is too big a change to introduce in 5.x, and we're far from > reaching consensus about it being suitable for even the next major version > of PHP. Oh sorry, I didn't mean to imply removal of mod_php or anything. Thats a bit drastic at this point. I was talking about fixing the mess of http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.commandline.php saying "don't use this sapi" and the confusing http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.fpm.php You may also notice the wtf apache2 install guide: http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.apache2.php But if "make install" could do most of the formalities http://www.php.net/manual/en/install.unix.nginx.php tells you to do, then we are golden and we can make that as one of the headline features of 5.6; "Installing PHP is once again a simple task!" -Hannes