Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74059 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 86834 invoked from network); 8 May 2014 14:27:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2014 14:27:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pierre.php@gmail.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pierre.php@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.216.53 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pierre.php@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.216.53 mail-qa0-f53.google.com Received: from [209.85.216.53] ([209.85.216.53:49351] helo=mail-qa0-f53.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 82/11-15882-0549B635 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 10:27:29 -0400 Received: by mail-qa0-f53.google.com with SMTP id ih12so2569454qab.12 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 07:27:26 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=TBTVPSsW9dmlrdgoMZ2iYN3IXuu7aJyNsTohMyVUIeQ=; b=Eqd2e+ajNj4g2mmlfb7nATjcnLDG5w7YAykFbS3RLr25iNx15iaNNTBk7Xa3Yu/Hwl u2MTieQC+20ja+txYo6VYdpDRz3tC/Mq5vpoJ2NJBdk7dMW2idxSDhOvk6+NNXXV+nKs RaHMoHm3zerq7btCnMj5maeAdpzYX+rYNeq1M/wHZ5DzErPzYcW3GX1i5I0VNg4QuAhU TVzd24YyocwH4SciIfVUKkOMnsp1ubT1LHJlFXZDueRiBV+9Gggdqi3YmOgfPQmunDKi xiwNyODOswaPCKhs0XmWM3HbOQt+kK3ydmlPCq9YlTE+s7bkh8RnXil/vdhrMxQ8qzRM 83PQ== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.98.233 with SMTP id o96mr5083640qge.86.1399559244771; Thu, 08 May 2014 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.47.231 with HTTP; Thu, 8 May 2014 07:27:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3806384083792355901@unknownmsgid> References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> <578A5A21-A820-42AD-A218-FB8049F63B82@zend.com> <4023102707179619765@unknownmsgid> <7EA5660E-B264-4332-AE06-9BB4610050AB@zend.com> <3806384083792355901@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 16:27:24 +0200 Message-ID: To: Zeev Suraski Cc: Andi Gutmans , Sebastian Bergmann , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: pierre.php@gmail.com (Pierre Joye) On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 4:22 PM, Zeev Suraski wrote: > Btw, I'm of course advocating doing this as a part of PHP 7, and not > in 5.6 or a minor version. There's going to be a migration process > from 5.6 to 7, and I think this part would be one of the easiest to > handle. There is no php7, or 6 for what matters at this time. Let keep discussions focused. The main disadvantage about focusing only on some SAPIs (fcgi+fpm and cli, dbg) is that we are mostly heading to a nts only versions of PHP, and that is per design a very bad choice. Also maintaining mod_php does not require much resources, or at least none of yours as it is not on your priority list since quite some time already. Cheers,