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Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 17:22:57 +0300
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To: Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com>
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement
From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski)

Btw, I'm of course advocating doing this as a part of PHP 7, and not
in 5.6 or a minor version.  There's going to be a migration process
from 5.6 to 7, and I think this part would be one of the easiest to
handle.

Zeev

> On 8 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 17:02, Andi Gutmans <andi@zend.com=
> wrote:
>
> On May 8, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Zeev Suraski <zeev@zend.com> wrote:
>
>>>
>>> For what it=E2=80=99s worth I don=E2=80=99t think we should stop suppor=
ting mod_php at this point in time.
>>> I think there are still plenty of situations where this is the easier, =
simpler route to go and quite robust.
>>
>> Such as?
>>
>> FastCGI (or fpm) is just as robust, it's a lot more scalable and has mos=
tly just advantages.  The main thing mod_php has going for it is history.  =
There are no real technological advances and the rise of PHP on nginx can a=
ttest to that.
>
> There are tools and know-how out there on configuring various aspects of =
PHP through http.conf/.htaccess. Sure you can achieve most of that via Fast=
CGI but I do not believe it=E2=80=99s as simple and straightforward and I s=
till believe the majority of the PHP community is using mod_php. Re: nginx,=
 the reality is, that while popular, it=E2=80=99s still not being used in t=
he majority of environments. It=E2=80=99s being used more on the big, scale=
-out properties than on the massive of smaller PHP deployments.
>
> I guess we=E2=80=99ll need to agree to disagree on this one :)
>
> Andi
>