Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74057 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83396 invoked from network); 8 May 2014 14:14:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2014 14:14:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=zeev@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=zeev@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.128.174 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: zeev@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.128.174 mail-ve0-f174.google.com Received: from [209.85.128.174] ([209.85.128.174:34172] helo=mail-ve0-f174.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9C/50-15882-4519B635 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 10:14:44 -0400 Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id jw12so3342614veb.33 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:references:from:mime-version:in-reply-to:date :message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=41cDJmOqCBBgRQGIG/UpRyqhYVQRjC/tgmy30pqYK6g=; b=O5GH6EEIA60XpTyKHDMMGZ39O2xjK5eMp6QWlYF+Dgu4PDsHma1CGCpK70I0AADP++ tGN9pF5x9qe+nXcITSIj+tpgLzWkxXpHorEteWrL0CyEnwD6AMHmv9xWDUiIgDLU93I2 pwaTNCh/TX5ro3zTp32hTf3KELiCa/4bAn+Ic0QI3F2RW1BSmazqeHZiMF/jqI75hKvj APO0Z/yxkkchdnbEQdTuG8CVkCfQ3ZnWyhfHErwStW5YvaxlFeQZ5k3xC8ekuqF4M94V S6Kfji4o1adXL7Q+gpnAdXQc/UQFeaDgD3vzMTXa0tgrzjn6vtxgmiuEkRYVfz5roDzH jKWA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmulVM2h7fJJL38lrNcy1HxtO4irRO5jeLvEmLn0ECiXG65+ylDJFhaDayhizp7L3PE/fkwg5xFRJjx9yhoba+Z+c8i0ZIw1Rf2PLFUjzoXOtw7wiAyZfLVGDpxAdSoQ3ckFO/y X-Received: by 10.221.19.196 with SMTP id ql4mr872836vcb.64.1399558482002; Thu, 08 May 2014 07:14:42 -0700 (PDT) References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> <578A5A21-A820-42AD-A218-FB8049F63B82@zend.com> <4023102707179619765@unknownmsgid> <7EA5660E-B264-4332-AE06-9BB4610050AB@zend.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) In-Reply-To: <7EA5660E-B264-4332-AE06-9BB4610050AB@zend.com> Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 17:14:39 +0300 Message-ID: <-1685780700287010055@unknownmsgid> To: Andi Gutmans Cc: Sebastian Bergmann , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11339b20299a7104f8e41a88 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: zeev@zend.com (Zeev Suraski) --001a11339b20299a7104f8e41a88 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 8 =D7=91=D7=9E=D7=90=D7=99 2014, at 17:02, Andi Gutmans = wrote: There are tools and know-how That's what I meant by "history". I don't think that should deter us from discontinuing an inferior option if there's an easy migration path. out there on configuring various aspects of PHP through http.conf/.htaccess= . Httpd.conf should work unchanged, and if we make htscanner a standard part of PHP - so will htaccess. I think this actually shows how little understanding there is in the market in terms of how easy migrating to FastCGI is. Sure you can achieve most of that via FastCGI but I do not believe it=E2=80= =99s as simple and straightforward It actually is, very. And we can make it even more so if we decided that was the way to go. I guess we=E2=80=99ll need to agree to disagree on this one :) No problem :) But let's disagree for the right reasons. Saying it's hard to switch is simply not true. Heck, even our very own Zend Server runs on mod_php, two flavors of FastCGI and one fpm - with no complexities stemming from these different setups. Zeev --001a11339b20299a7104f8e41a88--