Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:74056 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 81669 invoked from network); 8 May 2014 14:02:26 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 May 2014 14:02:26 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=andi@zend.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=andi@zend.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com from 209.85.220.43 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: andi@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.220.43 mail-pa0-f43.google.com Received: from [209.85.220.43] ([209.85.220.43:50945] helo=mail-pa0-f43.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id A2/00-15882-17E8B635 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 10:02:26 -0400 Received: by mail-pa0-f43.google.com with SMTP id hz1so2934956pad.30 for ; Thu, 08 May 2014 07:02:22 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=YpxQ6qhHd7kRynyROo/T5oiJp4wvt9rm2xEorLpyexA=; b=PuLs5bRGtrd7oLXO3Kczgw8QMM0BGBGqL1fm1n8k8xunjofRAOxnOp2tP2oHLxp8tJ 9R8CAfwZAeuuClbinOlP+0jW8z9wj7utxhg52Iar9KCjdGQAGK0C/FUP6FdUAwYULpGJ 9FZ0DDrf1xB4EzLhlcPwIkWbhpy8KheJRA1b/W/H8WOA4Y4z9WpUE/pEZfdlP+ZA/zH+ med+sytNUHl8IfLcu5TsnhH7WjFmWJEQlELErP3hSXt9vilWiukoe2mhC81wbjQPmIGl 8/LpYPdsTjNBwcym+H8QddKrBXs5n7Hqz6Rv+RXtcSaqWlVTRDfUCFikvQvGAv2ZDznZ ZZMQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQmeApQXvqpRzOTk8fgiAqgXPAw9ZZBUrYwonE8y+NoV45tf85ECnK2AiNMWx6Z8inW6F5NVn6MawRtw9b4wovjVwc8yfUdubjjTJYp20KVYK6AGxmnCMTOcq4CCL/g28P53NclX X-Received: by 10.66.136.131 with SMTP id qa3mr7913089pab.77.1399557742810; Thu, 08 May 2014 07:02:22 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.112] (c-24-130-225-174.hsd1.ca.comcast.net. [24.130.225.174]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id bu1sm2246668pbb.54.2014.05.08.07.02.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 08 May 2014 07:02:21 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.2 \(1874\)) In-Reply-To: <4023102707179619765@unknownmsgid> Date: Thu, 8 May 2014 07:02:19 -0700 Cc: Sebastian Bergmann , "internals@lists.php.net" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-ID: <7EA5660E-B264-4332-AE06-9BB4610050AB@zend.com> References: <5369CED9.5010001@php.net> <4339111475046055305@unknownmsgid> <578A5A21-A820-42AD-A218-FB8049F63B82@zend.com> <4023102707179619765@unknownmsgid> To: Zeev Suraski X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1874) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] phpng: Refactored PHP Engine with Big Performance Improvement From: andi@zend.com (Andi Gutmans) On May 8, 2014, at 5:46 AM, Zeev Suraski wrote: >>=20 >> For what it=92s worth I don=92t think we should stop supporting = mod_php at this point in time. >> I think there are still plenty of situations where this is the = easier, simpler route to go and quite robust. >=20 > Such as? >=20 > FastCGI (or fpm) is just as robust, it's a lot more scalable and has = mostly just advantages. The main thing mod_php has going for it is = history. There are no real technological advances and the rise of PHP = on nginx can attest to that. There are tools and know-how out there on configuring various aspects of = PHP through http.conf/.htaccess. Sure you can achieve most of that via = FastCGI but I do not believe it=92s as simple and straightforward and I = still believe the majority of the PHP community is using mod_php. Re: = nginx, the reality is, that while popular, it=92s still not being used = in the majority of environments. It=92s being used more on the big, = scale-out properties than on the massive of smaller PHP deployments. I guess we=92ll need to agree to disagree on this one :) Andi